Peter Weller
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I don't think anyone's saying that. You may want to look back at this older thread, though, where a lot of this has been talked about before:
How ...(be polite)...intriguing that you guys can recall the name of a one-time, non-famous guest star from a terrible episode of 60's Trek.
If you juxtapose it with the OP, which assumes that no one here knows who Peter Weller is or his history with Trek, it's kind of funny. Being able to name an obscure guest star from a single episode decades ago is apparently easier than naming a sci-fi legend who starred in two episodes only a few years ago
People still remember the likes of Clarence Darrow, so who's to say?
What a weird thread, the OP is obviously having a laugh or is truly mentally unstable but everyone is taking him/her/it/them seriously.
BTW I will give $1000 dollars to anyone who can name the TPTB person who said there would be a first season character in the film (the GM, Gorn, Horta, Talosian, Mudd). That was a nameless rumor. I'm sure there will be a few charters thrown in, but everyone is misremembering this attribution. A SUPPOSED PTB would be apt.
BTW I will give $1000 dollars to anyone who can name the TPTB person who said there would be a first season character in the film (the GM, Gorn, Horta, Talosian, Mudd). That was a nameless rumor. I'm sure there will be a few charters thrown in, but everyone is misremembering this attribution. A SUPPOSED PTB would be apt.
Whether most remember Melvin Belli's name or not, the fact is that he made a fairly pronounced impression on the legal landscape - one the effects of which are very much still being felt today, particularly in the area of personal-injury and product-liability lawsuits.
Don't go there, please. Take all the jabs you like at any opinions which are proffered, but speculation as to the mental state of other posters is poor form and it's getting unnecessarily personal. I'd prefer not to see it from anyone.
Well see, plenty of us were alive at the time, and thus by your own argument, there's nothing particularly "intriguing" about the fact that a bunch of us actually know who Melvin Belli was. Eh?
Plus, Melvin Belli wasn't just "a" lawyer. He was a very high profile larger-than-life personality, and was kind of a fixture on the panels of the talk show circuit. And from an age where his appearance on TV weren't competing with a hundred other shows, on a hundred other channels. There really are no modern counterparts to Belli, and the world today isn't all that comparable to the world that existed back then, so your point that you can't "Think of any lawyer today that will be remembered 40 years from now" is pretty much moot, in an "apple and oranges" kind of way.
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I think there's a really good chance Johnny Cochrane will be remembered 40 - 50 years after the OJ Simpson Trial. If I recall, that was the first really famous trial to use DNA Evidence so strongly/prominently, and of course there's "If it doesn't fit, you must Acquit"
For me, I remember watching Star Trek as a child in the 1970s, and having it pointed out to me that the Actor wasn't a Professional actor, but rather a famous Lawyer Melvin Belli.
Additionally, Many fans can remember all the titles of all the episodes of all the 5 Series, and certainly most hard Core fans can at least recall the plot of the episode if a title is mentioned, for at least one or two of the Series, if not for all 5. So, certainly remembering who played the Gorgon, Gary Mitchell, or any other 1 episode character isn't a stretch.
Even easier to remember if the character is one who especially liked or disliked, or was in an episode you especially liked or disliked.
I didn't say the movie takes place in 2156. I said that if Weller is playing the same guy he played in ENT (which I very much doubt), there might be a scene where they flash back to him.
And Khan isn't going to be in the movie.
April isn't going to be in the movie either.
^ I agree. What possible point could April serve? In TAS and some Treklit, he's the first Captain of the USS Enterprise. Well, in this universe, the first Captain is Pike. Who will apparently be in this movie. What purpose will some guy called April serve in the story?
FWIW, April was British. Cumberbunch has a better chance of being (a magically de-aged) Robert April than Peter Weller!
This.
I remember reading many moons ago that Belli and F. Lee Bailey had a friendly competition going to see who could rack up the most tv appearances, or something to that effect.
I didn't know y'all had a tread on Peter Weller. I didn't know that Star Trek XII was being film, I really was paying attention. I started pay attention after I've saw the tread about the picture leak.
You'd be surprised at what's known to those whose interest in and information about the world and modern times extends beyond watching fantasy on television.
How did you know about Captain April nationality? Star Trek Encyclopedia expanded edition never mention Captain April nationality. The only one that knew that Captain April was British was me and I told that to both Star trek Communicator and The Star Trek Magazine. It from a dream remember I having before I was even born and I was James T. Kirk around 11 or 12 years. Captain April was with George Kirk my dad in the dream and he ask me if wanted to beam up to Enterprise to get my broken arm fix. I broke it when I fell out of a tree, trying get my remote model plane or spaceship down from the tree.
What concerns me more is that I recall vividly a TV show from the 1980s about celebrity pets where Melvin Belli was interviewed about his dog, the beloved Welldone Rumproast III, who was even listed in the US phone book.
James Doohan used a British accent to voice April in Filmation's TAS episode and the Simon & Schuster audio books, "Final Frontier" and "Best Destiny".
I haven't read and listen to neither books and the last time I've seen the episode, is when it was first air.
Nevertheless, when you say "The only one that knew that Captain April was British was me and I told that to both Star trek Communicator and The Star Trek Magazine", keep in mind that the editors and writers of "Star Trek Communicator" and "Star Trek Magazine" would have had a thorough working knowledge of Filmation's TAS, the Pocket novels and the Simon & Schuster Audioworks productions. You were telling them nothing new.
Robert April, Pike's old XO has gone rogue. The first U.S.S Enterprise Captain in another reality.
Weller playing that is far more likely, than Paxton again I would've thought.
Cumberbatch's character would just be to April, what Kirk is to Pike. Maybe quite literally his son.
His super-strength and power to resist a Vulcan neck pinch... Maybe he's of mixed parentage like Spock, but hides it well. Chose humanity and followed his father's footsteps, over a Vulcan mother. Had the pointy ears surgically removed, so he could fit in better.
Maybe this is a direction that's ironic, given the kind of extremist bigot Weller got to portray on Enterprise. My issue I suppose, would be them being recognisably the same actor... but I doubt it would cross too many other people's minds sitting in the theater. They're too busy distracted by the fact it's the guy who played Robocop.
Captain Ron Tracey and Dr. Van Gelder must've been twins too, obviously.
Weller playing that is far more likely, than Paxton again I would've thought.
Cumberbatch's character would just be to April, what Kirk is to Pike. Maybe quite literally his son.
His super-strength and power to resist a Vulcan neck pinch... Maybe he's of mixed parentage like Spock, but hides it well. Chose humanity and followed his father's footsteps, over a Vulcan mother. Had the pointy ears surgically removed, so he could fit in better.
Maybe this is a direction that's ironic, given the kind of extremist bigot Weller got to portray on Enterprise. My issue I suppose, would be them being recognisably the same actor... but I doubt it would cross too many other people's minds sitting in the theater. They're too busy distracted by the fact it's the guy who played Robocop.
Captain Ron Tracey and Dr. Van Gelder must've been twins too, obviously.
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I hope he's playing William Lee, like he did in Naked Lunch. I think a Burroughs via Cronenberg-esque vibe is what Star Trek has been lacking all these years. It also means Cumberbatch could be playing Dr. Benway.
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