I'll cobble up some stuff to send you soon about the moon.
Now for the government being trust or taking freedoms...just remember what happened on september 11, 2001. (we were also supposed to have a HUGE conference called the disclosure conference, which was going to be going over all the ramifications of actual disclosure on alien life, bu the trade center attack happened around the same thing, and so instead of important things, like the chance of finding out about alien life, and maybe better sources of energy, we're fighting Arabs and bailing out banks....and look how much
better we are because of it ~eyeroll~ After it happened, the government went, "Look at this terrible thing that happened! You need to give up your freedoms, privacy and rights so that we can protect you!" and the sad part is a lot of people, in a sense of paranoia and a corrupted sense of patriotism, said, "Yes, we'll do that, please protect us!" and look at what we have now, the patriot act, phone tappings, never ending wars with Arabs, and a new bill that the military can take anyone into custody, if even remotely thought of as a terrorist threat without charges, trial or any die process....even the Nazi's got fair trials when the war ended....the past decade has been what I call a resurgence in fear paranoia of in the style of MacArthur when people were literally looking under their beds, expecting to find a communist, or allowing the government and military to break laws and wage illegal and immoral wars in the name of fighting communism, same with today, just that the Russians and Chinese were replaced with Arabs, and Communists replaced with Terrorists. Just different ism's and ist's.....it all boils down to either an exaggerated or invented Boogieman. I only hope humanity learned its lesson with these past 10 or so years to know its time to change. Here's who I look at the word "Apocalypse", apart from the D.C. Comics villain of the same name.
A disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception.
I didn't even know such a conference was planned. Where did you get knowledge of this?
Your right about the Patriot Act in response to 9/11. Perhaps what I should have said is that most people will only allow the government to take so much of their rights away until the government comes under heavy criticism, or even all out "repeal this or else!" protests. About the only scenario I'm worried about would be an event of cataclysmic proportions, natural or man-made, such as a plague, or Yellowstone erupting, in which the declaration of martial law might not seem like such an irrational decision to most people, or that there aren't enough people left to protest to the point that trying to cooperate would probably make things a lot less painful for everyone, as opposed to cracking/clamping down, and using whatever force works to restore "order".
The bill that allows the military to arrest anyone they see as a threat without due process on the other hand however does cause me worry, and not just because this shows an apparent lack of willingness to stick to our moral standard, even in the face of our enemies, even
if this does make it easier to contain internal threats. The problem lies in the possibility that a citizen arrested, and abused, cannot file a lawsuit for any harm that is done to him, because the officials holding him won't allow it, even if he/she were innocent, and no much how much s/he evokes his/her constitutional rights. Even more scary is the thought of twisting the term "terrorist" to mean anyone who is against or a threat to the military, even if they or a branch of the military isn't exactly loyal to the ideals or laws of the United States. Especially when this is the type of thinking that needs to be avoided, because this is not the way that we, a moral, rational, compassionate people, are supposed to think, and that includes the military (in the off chance that any military personnel happen to read this). It is when we start to operate in a "if you aren't with us, you are against us", "any potential threat must be neutralized, even if neutralization means lethal force or permanent injury", and "shoot first, ask questions later" mindset that we not only stray away from our American heritage and reputation, but also begin to turn our backs on our fellow citizens.
And for those who start down this path, they have two choices: either they can turn back, and face whatever consequences for whatever actions they have taken, or they can continue down that path, and attempt to cover up their actions whatever the cost, no matter who gets hurt or killed, or how much of the good and moral part of them that they loose or suppress, though the more that they do so, the deeper a hole they dig themselves into, and the less likely that they will receive any forgiveness for what they have done, whereas repenting sooner is more likely to end things with less pain and hardship.
I think people are beginning to realize that we cannot continue to do things the way that we have been, and that we need to stray away from the "status quo", but they don't know how to establish the necessary changes, and we've thus far failed to elect someone who is willing and able to make the necessary overrides of the "the powers that be".
And so the term apocalypse is a sort of synonym for revelation after all. I thought that might be the case, I just never heard of that beforehand.
We're in a world dominated by both falsehood and misconception, right now. I feel the apocalypse talked about by the Mayans, Hopi, and so on is of this era of falsehood and misconception coming to an end, and something that's been kept hidden from the majority of us for many uncounted years. Weather it's spiritual, alien life being known to us, or just a new way of thinking and doing things, it's something that has the bad guys (the ones in power, and not wanting to give it up for anything, to the point they will kill for it) so worried, that while they know the jig is nearly up, they are going to do what they can to hold onto that power as long as possible. To me, the ones who laugh ( or in most of their cases, LOL'ing, instead), call names like tinfoil hat or nutter, or, to be really cool, post images of either poorly made alien costumes or big names in the paranormal research community and toss in silly, cheesy captions are often folks who, despite complaining about their lives and the problems of the world around them, really don't do much to do anything about it, or think it's not worth doing, or won't do it because they either gotta a ballgame to go to or see who got booted off Idol, or they just watch political primaries, or those annoying as hell negative TV commercials, where the clowns in suits are calling each other names or talking smack about their opponents. Another is that, despite the dreariness of the world, and maybe their lives, they don't want it to change...some folks, especially older folks (remember the silent majority?), do not like or want change, even if the change is good. I remember speaking about just the idea of alien life, and one old religious woman put her hands to her ears and shouted, "I'm not listening to this, LA LA LA!", despite saying to her alien life would make her god look even mightier than before had we just been all he made. So, as the older ones start vanishing and more open minded, willing folks come forward, we got chance. Because I see no possible reason to actually want the world to continue being the miserable, paranoid, fear mongering trailerpark of the cosmos.
I think the problem with these sorts of people is that they are so pessimistic. I think it also helps if we think of this as more of a sort of evolution of society, a sort of improvement, and upgrade, a "Civilization Version 2.1" or whatever, as opposed to thinking of the changes as total replacements, where we are going to have to figure out how to use all of these changes to their best potential, and spend time struggling how to do so, because I don't think that is how it has to be. I think that rather than dropping the subject(s) or covering up things, there should be like a huge debate or discussion, in which we work out how fast the advances are implemented and at what pace, give those overtly religious folks a new way to think, so that they don't have an aneurysm or think they are committing an act against God, or whatnot, come up with a way for all of the businesses and companies not be left obsolete/out of business, but to help introduce the changes/they don't have to be left behind, and come up with a deal with the wealthy/elite so that they have no fear that they will be left out on the streets/left behind, or that they still won't be able to live well/keep their mansions and summer homes, so long as this doesn't cause anyone any harm. Might they loose some of their power? Probably. But that doesn't mean that they have to loose their legacies.
Companies that are currently oil or gas companies can become providers for fuel/power cells, I foresee a future where all of the automobile companies build cars that fly or float, and I see the possibility of utility companies still providing power, but in the form of much cheaper, efficient, and effective power sources, such as nuclear fusion. Is there a possibility that they won't be earning as much money as in the past? Yes, but they will still be around, because they will still have a purpose and a reputation, and having a purpose, and having an affinity for that purpose, is what really matters. Having material possessions, money, and power might be nice, but not when it gets to the point where you have a fear of loosing it, or where you harm others in an attempt to keep it.
Even those in charge and their employees of companies that no longer have a purpose, such as dissection body providers, don't necessarily have to end up abandoned on the streets; we could redistribute resources to support them, and set up a service to help them find a new occupation. It is when we act as a society to support each other that we are better off, because this can make it unnecessary to go "everyone for him/herself" in even the worse of circumstances, not to mention much more preferable.
I bet we already have anti-grav propulsion in use, only by the military, of course, since we peons are not worthy....they'll let us have the earth, but they wan the rest of the solar system, I bet.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: the military almost always gets the coolest stuff. I almost can't stand the fact that most of their aircraft are supersonic-capable; I couldn't if not for the fact that we are having oil shortages. But as soon as we switch to something like hydrogen fuel cells, I'm going to have half a mind to contact whoever is in charge of customer relations and ask when the supersonic airliners will start flying, because after that, there will be no excuse for using mostly, let alone only, sub-sonic aircraft. The only use that sub-sonic aircraft would have would be short-range travel, and I mean no further than between bordering states. If I'm traveling to the other side of the country, or further, I want to get there fast, especially if the seats are 1) very comfortable, or 2) easy to sleep in.
And if the military has figured out how the use anti-gravity propulsion, under the circumstances that we really need a replacement for oil, the reasons had better be that the only power sources that they have found to be powerful enough are radioactive or otherwise harmful, should the craft using them, say for example: crash, despite countless periods of time spent by some of the worlds most brilliant scientists trying to find an energy source that is both adequate and cause any serious detrimental effects to anyone or anything it is exposed to, and can't be turned into a bomb by some crazies that is anymore dangerous than current vehicles. Because this isn't the case, someone really needs to march right up to where they keep this stuff, and demand to know why the hell the blueprints for the drives hasn't been sold to all of the engine corporations and the formula for the power source sold to all of the energy companies, because I would really love for our highways to be given a major overhaul, so we can all go 150 mph WITHOUT BEING CHASED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, like they can do in Germany, and to a lesser extent, in Italy, or in the movie I Robot! Ever since I saw that movie, I have thought "that is more like how are highways should function!".
And who the hell are they, or anyone else, to say who is worthy? If we're not worthy, than neither are they, end of discussion. This probably wouldn't be such a big deal in my opinion if 1) our current most popular power source weren't running out, 2) getting more expensive, and 3) polluting and causing environmental changes which needs to be stopped. And it is not their job to own the planet, let alone the entire solar system, it's to protect us! If they want to be in charge, for all I care, they can run for office, but if they try to pull one over on us and set them up as president for life, I'm 99.9 percent sure they will regret it, because there is no such thing as a president for life, and anyone who coronations themselves as such definitely needs to be arrested (though not necessarily shot or otherwise killed, but that's because we don't want them to go into the "kill or be killed mode", because I there is a chance they might be more willing to come willingly if they know they will be shown mercy).
If you also want ready to find images, get a copy the second edition of Dark mission: the secret history of NASA, it's got amazing stuff with lunar structures, the images were from a former NASA employee who witnessed lunar films (the actual negatives) being airbrushed and all that, yet 4 sets of the original, untouched images were retained, and he was ordered to destroy them. He destroyed three of them, and because of a sense of patriotism and wanting to do the right thing, saved one set, and kept them hidden until just recently, and there's amazing things seen, structures measuring in the height of miles. and the flight recording of the lunar mission before the moon landing one, one of the astronauts, while 8 miles above the surface went, "damn, we almost hit that thing!" and I wonder just what that 'thing' was. I think it was one of those glass towers or domes....more so sense the lunar landing astronauts mentioned and pictured the sky and it was hazy and opaque, like in a morning sky (yet the moon has no air to do so) and the sky also descried at 'patent leather' and here's something...they said the gold face plates on the apollo helmets were to block light coming to the eyes....they actually allow more light to come in.
Anyhow, I'll send you some nice stuff, but will take me awhile to find the good stuff to present.
I would definitely love anything about the artificial structures on Luna; ever since I've heard of these on the History Channel, and read mentioning of these on the Internet, I've wanted to find out as much about these things as I could. I'm hoping that I will live to see the day that these artifacts will become a tourist attraction, and that I might even be able to walk among them myself. Can you imagine the look on the faces of a group of students, while touring these artifacts in the same way that that a class might go to Egypt or Rome or Greece over Spring Break?
I don't suppose I could expect to find a copy of Dark Mission at Borders or something? I've heard that Luna is apparently hollow, since it rung like a bell for hours after the Apollo moon module landed, I've heard that the Astronauts reported seeing craters so deep, they couldn't see the bottom, and whats more, that they saw UFOs coming in and out of them. But I've never heard of the sky having an unusual appearance, so I'm wondering if they landed through some sort of force field, because Luna doesn't appear to have it's own actual atmosphere, or any clouds, unless they are so thin, they can only be seen from the surface. I won't mind having to wait a little longer for you to gather your articles and what not. I've been waiting ever since I've found out about these things on Luna, and a little longer won't hurt any!
I'm enjoying having these discussions with you, though I'm also a little conscious that they are probably becoming off topic. I'm starting to think that perhaps it would be a good idea to continue this topic in another thread. But this is your thread, so technically, as long as the administrator come in and say that it is off topic the decision is ultimately up to you.
As for my drawing skills....I can draw decent robots, vehicles and so on, but i never used 3D to make actual meshes, all my 3D stuff is Daz Studio/Poser, and that just uses meshes and textures already made that on can download. Closest I can do it put together some odds 'n sods to maybe make some approximate ideas.
It might be worth considering trying to get a 3D modeling program. Making your own brand new designs can go a long way. If all else fails, I suppose you could go asking around for someone to make a 3D model based on your sketches, I guess.
Anyhow, how's THIS for a possible Starfleet Uniform, about 10 years after Nemesis? There's a male version as well, both use the same patterns and colors and so on.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/holmberg-x-for-v4-and-v4-bodysuit/83717 i'd really like to somehow get some TMP elements back into Starfleet uniforms. I'll also see if I can improvise a few options, like an optional skirt or optional boots/shoes with high heels for the girls, and maybe an optional scant for the guys. Maybe even design new com badge or something.
That actually looks like it might work surprisingly well, especially considering that these weren't exactly made to be Starfleet uniforms. They might not work perfectly without a few adjustments however.