Prometheus: Ridley Scott returns to Sci-Fi

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  1. Allyn Gibson

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    It's a little more complicated than that.

    Fox considers AVP a separate franchise from Alien and Predator. They are seen and treated as three distinct franchises, despite the overlap between them.
     
  2. JD

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    Ridley Scott revealed another connection between Alien and Prometheus:
     
  3. Deckerd

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    It's not complicated. Alien and Predator are genre defining movies. AvP is shit.
     
  4. Pingfah

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    AVP was bearable, AVPII is one of the only reasonably budgetted sci-fi movies I have turned off half way through. It was just two guys in rubber suits wrestling each other, and in the dark so you couldn't see it was just two guys in rubber suits wrestling each other.

    I always thought that AvP should not have had humans or dialogue in it at all. Predators invading the alien homeworld and getting more than they bargained for, that could have been an ace movie.
     
  5. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Without a human or a more anthropomorphic protagonist to identify with, I doubt that most punters would pay to see a near 2-hour CGI slasher movie. An entrée spectacle of beast versus beast action might have worked in the Roman amphitheatre, but even they preferred their fights to include human participants.
     
  6. Disruptor

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    The film was dark in the theater. On television, the film is unwatchable.

    I'm torn between it being not that bad and it doing exactly what they should never have done: reducing two once well-regarded franchises into an "aliens attack small town America" b-movie.
     
  7. xortex

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    Connecting it to the Blade Runner Franchise universe would elevate it beyond AVP.
     
  8. Deckerd

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    Connecting what?
     
  9. xortex

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    Well the twitchy replicants for one. The evil mega conglomerate mentality that the heros have to break free from, etc.
     
  10. Deckerd

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    You've lost me.
     
  11. Saul

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    Whose to say it can't be for both? ;)
     
  12. xortex

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    The greedy corperations want time travel and Ripley was a replicant with an alien agenda, controlled by Prometheus.
     
  13. Pingfah

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    There's really no dilemma there. It was terrible, in every conceivable way :p

    You mean like Soldier? Might want to rethink that.
     
  14. BenRoethig

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    Would have been a bit better if they set it some time After Aliens/Alien3 like the game. Setting it on Earth present day really ruined it that and they tried to make it a teenager-aimed slasher film instead of keeping with the tone of Alien or Predator
     
  15. Deckerd

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    There's an overarching plan to link all of them. It will be glorious.

    except AvP obviously
     
  16. Samurai8472

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    The line about cybernetic beings becoming nearly indistinguishable with humans was very "Blade Runner"



    Well some people like to think Ridley Scott's Blade Runner and Alien are are connected.
     
  17. xortex

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    It would be fun to see Ripley and Newt get together with Deckard (Harrison Ford's character in Blade Runner) and try to stop the war between the greedy evil corperations' programmed replicants and the god like creators of the xenomorphic aliens (weapons).
     
  18. Reverend

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    Unless I'm mistaken, one of those people just so happens to be Ridley Scott.
    Indeed, if you just take that at face value (and perhaps ignore the Alien sequels) it fits perfectly.
     
  19. KB24

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    Agreed this smart viral in universe stuff they are doing seems to have just as many references to Blade Runner whilst keeping still most of the details about Prometheus in the dark.

    Anticipation.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLoyg3JKRQ


    I'll be as orgasmic as the look on this kid's face if there really is replicant/android/synthetic connections indeed!
     
  20. BenRoethig

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    Nothing to concretely tie them together, nothing to prevent it either.