It's gonna be Khan (pretty damn sure now with the pics)
- Thread starter Lord Garth FOI
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Khan you all stop with the puns please?
<sigh> will you all just Khan it, please?
Khan do.
If we keep this up Khangress will pass a bill outlawing the message boards. Quit it.
I'm taking a khan-do attitude and coming up with a logical reason (or loophole) for why Cumberbatch could be Khan.
First: Why does Cumberbatch have to use his British accent? Think Hugh Laurie.
Second: It's been quite a while since I've seen "Space Seed", but isn't it only implied that Khan is Sikh? Novels may have filled in a lot of blanks, but his on-screen origins are actually murky. Maybe he's not Sikh or even Indian and he just didn't disabuse them of it in "Space Seed". After all, he wasn't carrying a kirpan (that I can remember). You'd think a Sikh of his stature most certainly would. And, none of his fellow travellers or survivors in TWOK looked to be Indian (for what that's worth). You'd think there'd have been a few out of the group.
Y'know. If it turns out that Khan is NOT in the movie (and for me, frankly, there has been nothing I would call proof so far), a lot of people here are gonna look kind of silly.
That's guaranteed to happen, regardless of who Cumberbatch is playing.
That's guaranteed to happen, regardless of who Cumberbatch is playing.
This is the TrekBBS. It's in the contract.
I suppose that was a bit of the approach I was taking by saying that a person could argue that Montalbahn's Khan may not have been of Indian heritage at all, but rather of Spanish heritage, and maybe just came to power in the Indian sub-continent area (and "Khan" could still be just a nom de guerre). Who knows?
I understand the intent of TOS probably was that Khan was Indian, but does that really matter?
The person that Spock is fighting is not Khan. He is someone else. Right now, we don't know the year. It might be 2259 or 2260. But it most likely before 2264, the year Kirk and the Enterprise crew found Khan ship. I do think he was genetic engineer just Khan had been.
The late Ricardo Mantalban was born in Mexico.
Montalban's parents were from Spain.
Your point that you consider Montalban to be Mexican kind of supports my argument that if Khan had Spanish parents, but was born and raised in India (and embraced the Indian culture), then some people may call him "Indian".
The same could be argued for JJTrek's Khan. He may be a person born/raised in India, but had parents who were British nationals (there are many Brits in India due to their colonial past), and has embraced Indian culture, and possibly shunned his parents' culture. That person may be considered "Indian" by some, even though his parents were not.
Having said that, I have no idea if BC is playing Khan. I'm just sayin'.
We're all just sayin'.
Yeah. Based on "Space Seed" alone, it's not no-Khan-do for Cumberbatch to be Khan. There's a pretty blank canvass to draw on.
He doesn't look like Montalban (therefore, Khan) at all. But then again, Yelchin looks nothing like Koenig. Pegg looks nothing like Doohan. Cho looks nothing like Takei. Greenwood looks nothing like Hunter. And Saldana looks nothing like Nichols. (There are those who'd say the Enterprise doesn't even look like the Enterprise.)
Khan has been retconned before and he'll be retconned again. If he is brought back, his middle and last name will be tossed in the can along with nonsense like selective breeding leading to WWIII in the 1990's. No one but us will know or care about inconsistencies with an old episode from the 60's.
He's a genetically engineered superman named after a historical warrior and conqueror. They should find the best actor they can afford to play him and get on with it.
He's a genetically engineered superman named after a historical warrior and conqueror. They should find the best actor they can afford to play him and get on with it.
Yeah, they can always ret-Khan.
Because the "altered timeline" is a narrative fig leaf.