That would be a bad move by the writers especially if there is any season 5 or to hold viewership at current levels. The fans will feel like they have been robbed of the characters they loved from season 1-3 if the prime timeline is gone for good.
Fringe 4x14 - "The End of All Things" (Live Commentary, Spoilers)
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That would be a bad move by the writers especially if there is any season 5 or to hold viewership at current levels. The fans will feel like they have been robbed of the characters they loved from season 1-3 if the prime timeline is gone for good.
I agree, that's what I understood as well. The intended future could still happen, because him and *this* Olivia would create the same outcome.
Hubby recognize him, of course, Hubby remembers everything and recognizes everyone. I'm like, "serious? He's so old!". But I suppose he's got a right to look older--he IS older.
Someone should find a screenshot of Future Guy and 'shop a fedora on him.
I enjoyed the episode. It lived up to the 'Game Changer' tag in that we originally thought everything was happening because of what Walter did, but we know now that everything was set in motion because of what September did.
Great episode!
Olivia was in her element this episode. From figuring out Shapeshifter Nina's duplicity and subtly manipulating her to the latest, powerful display of Olivia's abilities. I can't wait for her to reach a level in which she can access her abilities without trying like she did in the alternate future in the S3 finale.
Peter's trip into the Observer's mind was enjoyable and revealing. We get to see September as someone haunted by his mistakes and struggling to fix them which would explain his bond with Walter in past seasons because Walter of all people can understad that heavy burden.
But there are questions lingering in my mind after this episode: why is Nina still left alive if a shapeshifter copy of her is already made since it is the routine to kill the original to make room for the shapeshifter? what did Jones did to himself to put himself together again and make himself able to walk around after getting shot in the neck by Olivia? and what is going on with Olivia? How is she suddenly remembering the other timeline while forgetting bits and pieces of her memories of the alternate timeline?
I can understand Peter's reason for keeping his distance from Olivia at the end of the episode. He thinks he is the source of Olivia having such memories and that connection is causing damage to her. But I hope this isn't the case and we get a firm answer to the mystery of Olivia's condition that can bring Peter and this Olivia back together.
I too believe that we are seeing the merging of the two timelines and not the scenario of Peter returning to his original timeline. The latter would reboot everything that has happened this season and make it all feel irrelevant.
Olivia was in her element this episode. From figuring out Shapeshifter Nina's duplicity and subtly manipulating her to the latest, powerful display of Olivia's abilities. I can't wait for her to reach a level in which she can access her abilities without trying like she did in the alternate future in the S3 finale.
Peter's trip into the Observer's mind was enjoyable and revealing. We get to see September as someone haunted by his mistakes and struggling to fix them which would explain his bond with Walter in past seasons because Walter of all people can understad that heavy burden.
But there are questions lingering in my mind after this episode: why is Nina still left alive if a shapeshifter copy of her is already made since it is the routine to kill the original to make room for the shapeshifter? what did Jones did to himself to put himself together again and make himself able to walk around after getting shot in the neck by Olivia? and what is going on with Olivia? How is she suddenly remembering the other timeline while forgetting bits and pieces of her memories of the alternate timeline?
I can understand Peter's reason for keeping his distance from Olivia at the end of the episode. He thinks he is the source of Olivia having such memories and that connection is causing damage to her. But I hope this isn't the case and we get a firm answer to the mystery of Olivia's condition that can bring Peter and this Olivia back together.
I too believe that we are seeing the merging of the two timelines and not the scenario of Peter returning to his original timeline. The latter would reboot everything that has happened this season and make it all feel irrelevant.
I don't think that was a shapeshifter posing as Nina rather it was the Nina from the Red universe.
Why would the Nina from the Red Universe want to cross over to pretend to be the Nina of that universe? That's what I don't get. What's in it for her?
I'm puzzling over that one myself, but I don't think that Tortured Nina was a shapeshifter, I think she was indeed the Evil Nina from Red-verse. But as you say, what's in it for her? There's still something we're not seeing yet. And I'm still curious as to what Bell's fate in this altered timeline was, as I seriously doubt it would be the same demise we saw at the end of Season 2.
There is something I don’t understand.
How can the “correct” future involve Olivia and Peter’s kid? They would never have met if September hadn’t interrupted mirror universe Walter to begin with (because Walter-Prime would never have crossed over and brought Peter with him)
How can the “correct” future involve Olivia and Peter’s kid? They would never have met if September hadn’t interrupted mirror universe Walter to begin with (because Walter-Prime would never have crossed over and brought Peter with him)
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As he himself stated, the Observers are from a what if universe. In order for that universe to come about, or at least the best possible one of the various paths taken to get there, September needed to do what he did.
In an interview, Blair Brown sort of hinted at what's driving this second Nina:
In the alternate universe, there's no Bell and no Massive Dynamic, but Nina is still an intelligent and capable person who just hasn't been given an opportunity to display her potential, so when Jones shows up and gives her a chance to use her skills, she's more than willing to jump onboard.
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