it's funny, I read that too quickly and saw it as Gerald Ford's contribution to "Amok Time."
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it's funny, I read that too quickly and saw it as Gerald Ford's contribution to "Amok Time."
I loved that bit. That episode was a good look into who Spock truly is as a being. I've watched it several times and it never gets old.
Never thought of it but again you're right, Warped9. Astute observation!
Everything worked right in that episode. Yeah, you really did feel the heat on Vulcan when you watched that didn't you? I did!
The writing was beyond excellent and plotting was was good. Pacing did slow down a little prior to and during the battle scene...my guess was to make it last the full 25 minutes.
The actors did seem a bit confused during the Vulcan scenes...maybe the action was a bit too alien for them, but Nimoy was on his game and definately in the zone.
The look on Nimoy's (and Maj's) face were priceless.
I can watch it over and over and over and over...
I always figured that Sarek was betrothed to someone first, then probably widowed, and was then free to marry Amanda. The events in Star Trek V would actually go to support this idea.
Okay, conceded. I knew I had some memory/concentration impairment, but this alarms me, that I didn't put that together for myself. I wonder why the "action" seemed so much more blatant to me with Amok Time, then. Maybe it's because the whole episode revolves around the fight, rather than its being just one of several events in the plot. Maybe it's because it was the first appearance of that famous fight music...
He actually said "tha'gh'erll," which as we all know is Vulcan for "bondmate who spurned me for a fellow officer."
Uhura: "She lovely Mr Spock, who is she?"
Spock: "She is T'ramp ... (**sigh**) my wife."
Ian Keldon
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I can see your point, but I don't think those conditions are met by this episode. The duel is an integral part of the episode, as it showcases an aspect of Vulcan culture and is not presented as gratuitous or in any way "tacked on" just for action value.
Ian Keldon
Fleet Captain
Ian Keldon
Fleet Captain
IIRC they did indeed.
And T'pring was
the "big bad" behind the secessionist movement
Ian Keldon
Fleet Captain
A fact that was made abundantly clear to Spock repeatedly as a child, as evidenced in "Yesteryear" as well as JJ's movie.
Aww, come on, surely she wasn't that bad?
Rest of fandom in a thundering chorus, "YES! Yes, she was!!!"
Hmmm, maybe you're right.
(Was testing an on-line friend's makeup textures and decided to depict an even more provocative T'Pring.)
Sincerely,
Bill
I think that if T'pring looked like that; Kirk would have knocked Spock out cold before the first gong's echo had faded.
Oh yes. She finally noticed that having was not as pleasing as wanting; it was illogical but often true.
(Spock's World is brilliant, by the way.)
Frankly said, I hate this episode.
Vulcan society is dumb and the whole story illogical. At first, there was a telepathic bond thingy, which turned out to be totaly pointless, since Spock got rid of pon farr when he 'killed' Jim and haven't even touched T'Pring at all. (That's good. If he really married T'Pring and then jumped with her behind the nearest bush, the moments after would be quite awkward for Jim and Bones, and inappropriate for 60's show). When some physical activity, like fight or so, was enough, he could have cured it just by running through the circular corridor on Enterprise, until he drops on the floor from exhaustion . And why it should be necessary to kill Jim? It seemed to me more like a hypnose. T'Pau mind-melded with him, and then he got mad, when 'koon-ut-kal-if-fee' was said. He calmed down, when she yelled 'Kroikah' and got normal, when he 'killed' Jim.
When I saw this episode for the first time, I was quite shocked. I used to think that Vulcans are smart and developed. And then THIS. A woman as a goddamn PROPERTY of someone else? WTF?! And they call themselves logical? As a girl, I was offended by Amok Time.
Vulcan society is dumb and the whole story illogical. At first, there was a telepathic bond thingy, which turned out to be totaly pointless, since Spock got rid of pon farr when he 'killed' Jim and haven't even touched T'Pring at all. (That's good. If he really married T'Pring and then jumped with her behind the nearest bush, the moments after would be quite awkward for Jim and Bones, and inappropriate for 60's show). When some physical activity, like fight or so, was enough, he could have cured it just by running through the circular corridor on Enterprise, until he drops on the floor from exhaustion . And why it should be necessary to kill Jim? It seemed to me more like a hypnose. T'Pau mind-melded with him, and then he got mad, when 'koon-ut-kal-if-fee' was said. He calmed down, when she yelled 'Kroikah' and got normal, when he 'killed' Jim.
When I saw this episode for the first time, I was quite shocked. I used to think that Vulcans are smart and developed. And then THIS. A woman as a goddamn PROPERTY of someone else? WTF?! And they call themselves logical? As a girl, I was offended by Amok Time.
It's called irony.
My attention wanders during fight scenes. For me, it was all about "are our ceremonies for outworlders, Spoke?"
None of it made a lot of sense if I thought about it too hard. But I think I just loved that, underneath the Vulcans' public persona, there were apparently eons of craziness, aptly embodied by Celia Lovsky.
None of it made a lot of sense if I thought about it too hard. But I think I just loved that, underneath the Vulcans' public persona, there were apparently eons of craziness, aptly embodied by Celia Lovsky.
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