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I think my girlfriend is a Christian! Advice needed.

MB sure puts in a lot more efforts on these threads than most others here. I only know of MB's history by reputation. But has anyone found him to be inconsistent in some of his previous stories?

Or if everything he says is factually and logically consistent, which would strongly suggest he is truly describing reality rather than fantasy, then MB is indeed one disturbed fellow.

I believe he stays pretty consistent, but it's also not that hard if he does a lot of writing and keeps good notes on character traits and plot twists.

If any of this shit is real, that can only make it funnier.
 
I thought that creationalists do believe in evolution, but they believe that god is what kicked it off or is behind it all?

No, Creationists believe in a literal 6-day Creation. No dinosaurs, no evolution, nothing--all that stuff is either made up by scientists or made up by God to test the faithful, depending on who you ask.
 
^ I see, I'm a little slack on all of the different beliefs within beliefs.

"Old Earth Creationists" concede that maybe the Earth is many millions of years old, dinosaurs might have existed, evolution might have happened but it's still all God doing it. They vary quite a bit from person to person. But still believe it's a few million, nowhere near the actual 4.6 billion.

"Young Earth Creationists" normally seen by everyone as "the" creationists believe in the literal 6 day creation and Noah's Ark, and that dinosaurs, unicorns, trolls and dragons mentioned in the bible all perished in the event and the Earth is no more than 6000 years old, period.

Or something like that.
 
^ I see, I'm a little slack on all of the different beliefs within beliefs.

"Old Earth Creationists" concede that maybe the Earth is many millions of years old, dinosaurs might have existed, evolution might have happened but it's still all God doing it. They vary quite a bit from person to person. But still believe it's a few million, nowhere near the actual 4.6 billion.

"Young Earth Creationists" normally seen by everyone as "the" creationists believe in the literal 6 day creation and Noah's Ark, and that dinosaurs, unicorns, trolls and dragons mentioned in the bible all perished in the event and the Earth is no more than 6000 years old, period.

Or something like that.

I think you've got it right. And then there is the rest of us (that is, religious people) who believe in following the scientific evidence, with the proviso that, yes, we do think that what kicked the whole shebang off was a force that I call "God."
 
I think there's nothing wrong with believing in god as well as accepting scientific facts. You can be religious and still believe in evolution. If you dismiss all religious people, well, you're dismissing a huge chunk of the human population. I'm not religious by any stretch of the definition and I accept evolution and science, but still somewhere in my head I still have a faint belief in something. I don't know what to call it, but I believe in it. So, if I can be dismissed by people like Dawkins or who ever, I believe that's an extremely unfair dismissal.

As for creationists, why can't they have their cake and eat too? Just have your personal and philosophical truth, then also have scientific truth as well.
 
I thought that creationalists do believe in evolution, but they believe that god is what kicked it off or is behind it all?

No, Creationists believe in a literal 6-day Creation. No dinosaurs, no evolution, nothing--all that stuff is either made up by scientists or made up by God to test the faithful, depending on who you ask.

Hmm, this isn't true at all. I am surrounded by creationists, and not a single one of them (myself included) would ever say anything like that.

I can't be certain that I believe in a literal six day creation, but I do believe that we have an intelligent creator. Whether he did it all in a week or three hundred years is irrelevant to me.

Also, rather than anyone claiming dinosaurs never existed (? never heard this one before), creationists (young earth, anyway) believe that they roamed the earth much more recently than the evolutionists will claim. Recently enough for them to appear on cave drawings next to all of the other animals. :p
 
I think there's nothing wrong with believing in God as well as accepting scientific facts. You can be religious and still believe in evolution.

Can't argue with that in the slightest. It's a standard I've lived by for many years. I believe in God, but I also believe the planet is 4.6 billion years old and that dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago. Science isn't anybody's enemy, unless they're deliberately blind to new ideas, frightened of their tightly-constructed fundamentalist reality being turned upside down or are just irretrievably stupid.

There's room for both science and faith if you allow your mind to remain open to all the possibilities of the cosmos around us.
 
"When you cant explain something with science, add a bit of faith"

The belief in God and science are not mutually exclusive.
 
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