Dark Frontier TV-Movie: Thoughts and First-Time Recollections

[Anwar]

Actually, the Delta Quadrant is mentioned in TNG regarding the Borg. In "Descent" when they're analyzing the Transwarp Conduit the image on the computer screen shows that the exit is in the Delta Quadrant. Or at least they assume that the Conduit sends you to the Delta Quadrant.

They never said exactly where the HQ Planet of the Renegade Borg was located, but taking that data-screen into account I think it was supposed to be in the Delta Quadrant.

 

[BillJ]

Actually, the Delta Quadrant is mentioned in TNG regarding the Borg. In "Descent" when they're analyzing the Transwarp Conduit the image on the computer screen shows that the exit is in the Delta Quadrant. Or at least they assume that the Conduit sends you to the Delta Quadrant.

They never said exactly where the HQ Planet of the Renegade Borg was located, but taking that data-screen into account I think it was supposed to be in the Delta Quadrant.

Talking about dialogue. Dependent on screen size it would be tough to tell exactly what any given TNG graphic says.

 

[Anwar]

The camera actually focused on the data screen so we could see what it was saying. I think we were meant to see the "Delta Quadrant" information there, even though the dialog never says "Delta Quadrant".

 

[Lord Manitou]

It is evident the sexual organs are important to the Borg and their drones are free from tubes and machines in that area of the physique.

Do you think they actually pee? I always assumed they had some catheter system.

The Borg drone cannot go to the john because their are no johns on a Borg cube. What little liquid the drone injests filters their blood and serves their sweat glands. If their is waste it is probably atomized in their halls or, it they are short on parts, he unlatches the pouch and discards it.
I doubt any sexual performance is accompanied by an ejection because they have enough machinery to be free of any type of ejection. Without the machinery what remains is a mummy. This serves the Borg's ideal- but a large percentage of the time this condition doesn't exist for their machinery must contiuously moniter for balance. If something becomes faulty they find themselves becoming discordant and many get severed from the collective.

 

[DeepSpaceWine]

Yeah, Borg= Delta Quadrant association pre-dated Voyager. Now, as for "Descent", I don't remember the Delta Quadrant mentioned anywhere. I assumed it was far afield somewhere in the Alpha Quadrant, uncharted space. These weren't regular Borg, they were Lore's army, so they wouldn't necessarily be based in the DQ. They were from Hugh's ship, which I thought was found somewhere in the Alpha Quadrant (was the Amargosa Array/Cluster mentioned in association with it??).

 

[CaptainMatt]

OK, thanks all for your answers. I read each with great interest and found the subject to be even more a fascinating one than originally thought.

 

[Anwar]

Yeah, Borg= Delta Quadrant association pre-dated Voyager. Now, as for "Descent", I don't remember the Delta Quadrant mentioned anywhere. I assumed it was far afield somewhere in the Alpha Quadrant, uncharted space. These weren't regular Borg, they were Lore's army, so they wouldn't necessarily be based in the DQ. They were from Hugh's ship, which I thought was found somewhere in the Alpha Quadrant (was the Amargosa Array/Cluster mentioned in association with it??).

The Delta Quadrant was shown on a computer screen when they were showing an analysis of the Transwarp Conduit the Renegade Borg were using, it was saying that the Conduit (presumably) was a shortcut between the Alpha and Delta Quadrants. From this I think we were to assume the DQ was where the Conduit led.

As for the ship they used, it showed all the usual powers of a Borg vessel (green energy, couldn't be damaged with normal weapons, powerful engines and weapons of its own). I think it was supposed to be the original Borg ship Hugh's group were flying around in when they were infected by his individuality and then they re-made it into something that didn't need a Hive Mind to crew.

 

[DeepSpaceWine]

^
Lore probably used the renegade Borg to build a new ship or convert an existing ship. That ship looks nothing like a Borg vessel. Look how asymmetrical it is. The Borg use classic shapes- cubes, spheres, diamonds. Just looking at the ship when the episode premiered waaay back in 1993 reinforced the mystery of these strange Borg as indicated in the 1st encounter with Data and the others were far different from the usual Borg.

 

[Anwar]

But what happened to the Borg ship Hugh's group were using when they became individuals? It would've been a big waste to just abandon an advanced vessel like that. I think that Lore just had them remake their own ship and keep adding onto it to create the Descent vessel.

After all, it still had the same feel of a Borg vessel: Green energy weapons, couldn't be damaged by conventional weaponry, fast, etc.

 

[CaptainMatt]

So to get us back to the beginning, does Dark Frontier hold up as a VOYager TV Movie? Should they have made it in a movie format, or should they have done it as a two-parter with cliffhanger? Did it offer more than subsequent Borg episodes did?
Should it have been the last story to feature the Collective and the Queen?