The tourist dollar brought into the UK because of the monarchy should not be underestimated.
Diamond Jubilee
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I'm basically indifferent to the monarchy. The notion of making a fuss over people on no basis other than what family they were born / married into is completely and utterly absurd to me, and essentially that's what all the fawning over royalty is. I can't see why an accident of birth or a marriage somehow makes a person "better" or more worthy or whatever than anyone else; it just makes zero sense to me. (As an aside, I don't consider myself a "subject" of anyone, but perhaps that's just me.)
While I'd rather Australia was a republic, I'm not at all interested in change for the sake of change. Whatever one's views on the monarchy may be, we've been one of the most politically stable countries on the planet for quite a while now. Whatever replaces the current system must offer that same level of stability, or it isn't worth it.
I didn't vote because none of the options really fits my views.
While I'd rather Australia was a republic, I'm not at all interested in change for the sake of change. Whatever one's views on the monarchy may be, we've been one of the most politically stable countries on the planet for quite a while now. Whatever replaces the current system must offer that same level of stability, or it isn't worth it.
I didn't vote because none of the options really fits my views.
i like the Queen. however, I'd rather have William as King next than Chucky boy.
if Charles takes the throne, then I'm all for the Revolution.
if Charles takes the throne, then I'm all for the Revolution.
The whole concept of nobility/gentry is totally absurd. Their only achievement is that they happened to be born in wealthy families. Sometimes those families aren't even rich, they are totally broke. But people fall to their knees and kiss feet and butts nonetheless. At least some of them have the decency to earn their undeserved initial popularity by using it for charity.
teacake;5759884And then there were the tidbits we learned when the intruder scaled the walls of the Palace and woke her up sitting at her bedside. Absolutely cool and collected she engaged him in chit chat while she pressed the hidden alarm button said:OMG, she just rose waaay up in my estimation. Not because of the presence of whiskey and absence of Prince Phillip, but because of her ability to keep cool in a potentially life-threatening situation. Of course, having an alarm button and knowing that someone will respond helps. But still... Very impressive.
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It's still not too late for the British to have a French style revolution.
I don't have anything to add to the discussion, but the thread title got me a bit confused. I'm used to Diamond Jubilees being the 75th anniversary of something, not 60th. Then I went to Wikipedia... (
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The way it's worded makes it sound like everyone in the world follows this convention, but I suspect that it's only observed that way within the UK, or at least not within the US. I have no evidence either way, though.
I do know that it still holds for events here, since I remember being a Cub Scout during the BSA's Diamond Jubilee (75th anniversary) 27 years ago.
)The way it's worded makes it sound like everyone in the world follows this convention, but I suspect that it's only observed that way within the UK, or at least not within the US. I have no evidence either way, though.
I do know that it still holds for events here, since I remember being a Cub Scout during the BSA's Diamond Jubilee (75th anniversary) 27 years ago.
As a Canadian I voted "No".
I do hope that we someday remove the Queen (future King) as our Head of State. However, we don't have a system in place that would allow this to occur without major upheaval. I also feel that we are still relatively young as a country, and our self identity is still evolving. If we lose our Commonwealth status we may be absorbed by the US identity.
So, for now, God save the Queen (future King)!
I do hope that we someday remove the Queen (future King) as our Head of State. However, we don't have a system in place that would allow this to occur without major upheaval. I also feel that we are still relatively young as a country, and our self identity is still evolving. If we lose our Commonwealth status we may be absorbed by the US identity.
So, for now, God save the Queen (future King)!
Why would you lose your Commonwealth status if you removed the Queen as your head of state?
There are many Commonwealth countries that do not have the Queen as their Head of State. In fact out of the more than 50 countries in the Commonwealth there are only 16 countries that has her as their head of state (and about half of them are Caribbean island nations).
In fact, 5 members of the Commonwealth actually have another monarch as their head of state (Lesotho, Malaysia, Tonga, Swaziland, Brunei).
Sorry, poor choice of words on my part. Whenever the topic comes up in my social circle we talk about the 2 topics combined. They have become interchangeable for our discussion purposes. Most of our conversations lately have been about leaving the Commonwealth (almost all of us weighing in on the "No" side of that), so I typed before I thought!
Why would some people want Canada to leave the Commonwealth?
Australians would hate it if Australia left the Commonwealth because we just love topping the medal table at each and every Commonwealth Games. I guess people from the other countries competing must get sick of hearing the Australian anthem so often.
Australians would hate it if Australia left the Commonwealth because we just love topping the medal table at each and every Commonwealth Games. I guess people from the other countries competing must get sick of hearing the Australian anthem so often.
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Maybe it's just me, but I think Queen Elizabeth is awesome. Having read her biography, I have to say she's been through a lot, and is tough as hell while maintaining a sense of humor about things, and that deserves some credit.
Blimey! I voted no. Abolish the monarchy? Are you daft? Have you gone mental? I live outside of Her Majesty's realm, but I think the British monarchy is bloody awesome..
And she's placed her handbag in the neighbouring seat so no one can sit there and annoy her.
"One wishes it to be known that this seat is taken. No room. No room".
See, she's just like us. That's what we do when we ride the bus/train
I've recently read a book on the Kings and Queens of England from William I to Elizabeth II, and it is just fascinating to read how the monarchy's role has changed in British government, especially over the last 200 years.
I am fascinated by the British peerage system and have gotten lost on Wikipedia for hours tracing the family tree of the Royals. We as Americans have no system of granting titles and dignities, so its nothing I can ever ascribe to, but it is interesting nonetheless. It'd be cool to be the Duke of something, even if its just a title and comes with nothing other than the prestige.
I was raised in the South, so the ideas of chivalry and courtesy were instilled at a young age, and there is something awe-inspiring about pageantry. I liken it to anyone who is in a branch of the military, or in a service organization like the Boy Scouts, where there is a natural order of things.
I was raised in the South, so the ideas of chivalry and courtesy were instilled at a young age, and there is something awe-inspiring about pageantry. I liken it to anyone who is in a branch of the military, or in a service organization like the Boy Scouts, where there is a natural order of things.
Ahh, thank you, Captcalhoun.
I finde the concept of monarchy somewhat bizarre in general. We got rid off it in 1918 and therefore it seems rather outdated to me as well. Why should we treat someone with reverence just because of their lineage? Elizabeth is a good example of the absurdity, I think. She's just a regular old lady, yet as she's the Queen, it's a big deal and a sign of her humility when she rides the tram like the rest of us mortals.
For the purpose of this poll I voted no but I don't live in the UK so I don't really care about it. It's their decision. But that wasn't an option in the poll.
For the purpose of this poll I voted no but I don't live in the UK so I don't really care about it. It's their decision. But that wasn't an option in the poll.
This. I think the monarchy is a fine institution, and in its modern form no threat whatsoever to a free nation. Yes, a system of hereditary privelege is arguably outdated, but to my mind that will only be an argument against the monarchy existing when hereditary privelege is no longer alive and well amongst the commons, under a different name. If I can live in a house paid for by an accident of birth, inheritance from my mrs' parents, why can't a royal?
I have enormous respect for the Queen, she works incredibly hard and has given her entire life in unwavering service to this nation. We could all learn from that work ethic.
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