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I just wanted to add that possibly, they redid the BOP shot because they didn't have both halves of the composite. It looks like the BOP may have been grabbed from TSFS from its standoff with the Enterprise in that film.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tsfshd/tsfshd1066.jpg

God I hope not, it would be such a shame to lose such brilliant model work! Fingers crossed the spacedock film elements are found. I am sure they would not have wanted to try and CGI those shots because they would surely be looked upon as inferior regardless as to how long they spend on perfecting it.
 
When George Lucas remastered the Return of the Jedi, he corrected a flaw in the original film. In the original, the green dancer suffered a wardrobe malfunction. In the new, this doesn't happen.
In the episode "The Ensigns of Command", when Deanna Troi and Jean-Luc Picard are aboard the Sheliak vessel, she had a wardrobe malfunction. She had a very visible camel toe. I am wondering if they will fix this malfunction for the remastered version.
Marina Sirtis cameltoe is not a malfucntion;):p:alienblush:
And there is also this scene:
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Anyway, I do not think there is really a need to start "fixing" or removing these kind of things:). Let it be, that is what I think about the issue anyway, if there is an issue to be made of this.

Oh my. She just looks glorious in that shot. The HD version of that should make for grade-A wank material.
 
Well the model work can still be seen in HD in the TOS Movies :) I'm not saying that every composite shot which included TOS film footage will be replaced, but that may be the reason they chose to reimagine this shot. Hopefully the interview pending at TrekMovie with the Okudas will shed some light, as well as official blogs from Doug.
 
I wonder why CBS would CGI that dropping out of warp shot with a 6 footer clone, when there are already numerous shots of the 6 foot model dropping out of warp that would have looked better and been authentic? The lighting just looks off in that shot.

Is there another version though? Maybe I'm being a bit dim, but I can't remember a 6-footer version of that shot. [EDIT: Oh, wait, found it, but as Start Wreck mentions above, why reduce the number of stock shots available?]

While looking for a screencap, I came across this one, CG that wallpaper away, please!:barf:
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I just wanted to add that possibly, they redid the BOP shot because they didn't have both halves of the composite. It looks like the BOP may have been grabbed from TSFS from its standoff with the Enterprise in that film.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tsfshd/tsfshd1066.jpg

God I hope not, it would be such a shame to lose such brilliant model work! Fingers crossed the spacedock film elements are found. I am sure they would not have wanted to try and CGI those shots because they would surely be looked upon as inferior regardless as to how long they spend on perfecting it.

Since the spacedock scene already has an HD transfer for the movies, there is no reason they can't add the ENT-D over the original ENT like they did when TNG aired. Although that doesn't explain why they didn't/couldn't do the same for the BOP.
 
Sorry Mr. Drexler, but I would agree with changing the 5893729082310575 Excelsior, Miranda, and Oberth class ships we saw in TNG with other ship classes of the time (Akira, Challenger, New Orleans, etc), and inserting new Klingon/Romulan ships when warranted.
 
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If that's how they use CG models, fine by me. TOS-R was really annoying because they went crazy with camera moves and lighting. But if they simply replace "bad" footage with the same camera angles, camera movement and lighting, that's well done.

I'm the exact opposite. I wish they had done more elaborate camera moves and angles than I've seen so far.

But they still sold me :(

I will be purchasing the seasons as they come along, unless they are very expensive.

I enjoyed most of the changes to TOS-R. The zoom-in on the bridge for The Menagerie, the way the matte paintings had movement in them so they looked less like paintings, and the new orbit / warp shots helped break the monotony of the same 7 shots over and over and over and over and over and over again. I sincerely hope they try to break up the TNG monotony with new angles and shots (and never again use that off-angle through-the neck warp-shot where the stars are misaligned with the ship...almost as annoying as the TOS Enterprise flying at an angle straight ahead every episode).
 
I sincerely hope they try to break up the TNG monotony with new angles and shots (and never again use that off-angle through-the neck warp-shot where the stars are misaligned with the ship...almost as annoying as the TOS Enterprise flying at an angle straight ahead every episode).

Why not just re-composite a 'corrected perspective' star field? There is nothing wrong with the existing shot of the ship aside from that.
 
I just wanted to add that possibly, they redid the BOP shot because they didn't have both halves of the composite. It looks like the BOP may have been grabbed from TSFS from its standoff with the Enterprise in that film.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tsfshd/tsfshd1066.jpg

God I hope not, it would be such a shame to lose such brilliant model work! Fingers crossed the spacedock film elements are found. I am sure they would not have wanted to try and CGI those shots because they would surely be looked upon as inferior regardless as to how long they spend on perfecting it.

Since the spacedock scene already has an HD transfer for the movies, there is no reason they can't add the ENT-D over the original ENT like they did when TNG aired. Although that doesn't explain why they didn't/couldn't do the same for the BOP.

I'd say that since Drexler, Probert and others are aboard, that they are going to let the Enterprise dock outside the Spacedock, as originally intended.
 
^Makes more sense. I remember thinking at the time that the scales were all messed up. If the E refit just fit through the doors how is it that the very same spacedock could accomodate the E-D?
 
Call me a dinosaur, but I still don't have a blu-ray player.

Does anyone think they'll come out with a DVD version of TNG-R, like they did with TOS-R?
 
It would seem to make sense for them to do so.

Do yourself a favour though. Get a Blu-Ray player. Assuming of course you have the HDTV necessary to watch it on that is.
 
It would seem to make sense for them to do so.

Do yourself a favour though. Get a Blu-Ray player. Assuming of course you have the HDTV necessary to watch it on that is.

I agree, just get a bluray player, the cost is minimal assuming you aren't in great financial straits, and yes, assuming you have an HDTV.

Down converting these to DVD hurts my sensibilities.
 
^Makes more sense. I remember thinking at the time that the scales were all messed up. If the E refit just fit through the doors how is it that the very same spacedock could accomodate the E-D?

Lol that is the first thing I thought of in 1988 when the ep aired... the scale is so incredibly wrong.
 
Sorry Mr. Drexler, but I would agree with changing the 5893729082310575 Excelsior, Miranda, and Oberth class ships we saw in TNG with other ship classes of the time (Akira, Challenger, New Orleans, etc), and inserting new Klingon/Romulan ships when warranted.
I actually left a really long comment on his blog when he announced he was joining the TNG-R team saying the same thing. Lets hope CBS/Paramount/whichever one is in charge listens.
 
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God I hope not, it would be such a shame to lose such brilliant model work! Fingers crossed the spacedock film elements are found. I am sure they would not have wanted to try and CGI those shots because they would surely be looked upon as inferior regardless as to how long they spend on perfecting it.

Since the spacedock scene already has an HD transfer for the movies, there is no reason they can't add the ENT-D over the original ENT like they did when TNG aired. Although that doesn't explain why they didn't/couldn't do the same for the BOP.

I'd say that since Drexler, Probert and others are aboard, that they are going to let the Enterprise dock outside the Spacedock, as originally intended.

^Makes more sense. I remember thinking at the time that the scales were all messed up. If the E refit just fit through the doors how is it that the very same spacedock could accomodate the E-D?

Lol that is the first thing I thought of in 1988 when the ep aired... the scale is so incredibly wrong.

If they do go ahead and change the docking sequence that would mean they would have to change this shot which I just loved when I first saw it.
 
I hope someone in charge tells him to shut up and start replacing.:rolleyes: What's the point of redoing things exactly how they were, if the main reasons for how they were were money issues? It has nothing to do with integritiy or keeping the vision intact etc., it's stupid and noticeable stock footage that was used way too much, get rid of it and let the 24th century look like it a little bit more often. Sometimes it felt like Starfleet consisted of the Galaxy class and some old buckets from Kirk's time. Mirandas shouldn't be seen at all for example!
 
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