Well that is where our opinions differ.
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Well that is where our opinions differ.
Essence of Trek. Ingredients on box.
http://trekmovie.com/2009/03/04/tre...iew-first-look-at-genki-star-trek-fragrances/
Of course it did. Jeez.
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I second this with all my heart.Which is why I wonder what the problem is with...
I loved this scene. Especially the line: "All I got left is my bones." I thought it was great and added a new layer to the old nickname. So what's the problem? Were McCoy and Nancy Crater never married? Was McCoy never married at all? I don't understand how this violates TOS or Rodd's vision.
One more question. I always assumed that Kirk calls McCoy "Bones" because he is a surgeon, as in "Saw-Bones", is there anywhere in the TOS that says otherwise? I'm watching the TOS for the first time chronologically (I'm currently up to the Corbomite Maneuver) and have yet to see any other explanation for the nickname.
Although I didn't have a problem with offering an alternative and unexpected justification for McCoy's nickname, I thought the line "all I got left are my bones" was awkward. Urban was great nonetheless.
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I think it worked because we never see anyone else call McCoy 'Bones', which suggests it could be something private between the two. YMMV.
I think it's the plural that makes it awkward.
On that note... it could be referencing his girlfriends.
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"All I got left is my bone?"
"All I got left are my bones?"
Somehow both of those sound even MORE awkward.
"All I got left is my bone?"
"All I got left are my bones?"
Somehow both of those sound even MORE awkward.
According to Orci and Urban, when the actor was called in to talk about playing McCoy - a role he pursued with gusto - he improvised the line in a demonstration of the accent, and Orci made sure it went into the script.
I believe the only reference to a divorce from Joanna's mother remained in the TOS and TAS writers' bibles, since the episode "Joanna" got morphed into "The Way to Eden". The daughter is briefly mentioned in a TAS episode, but not the wife. Nancy Crater was only ever an old flame, not McCoy's wife.
McCoy picked up the nickname originally planned for Dr "Bones" Boyce in Roddenberry's ST premise. I think it was also going to go to Dr Piper. Yes, the nickname relates to surgeons of Yore being "sawbones", but the factoid never made it onto the screen. Urban's line got every laughing at his audition and they loved that the nickname now had two meanings. Even in the real world, nicknames with more than one meaning are the ones likely to stick.
You won't. A few novels have explored McCoy's unhappy marriage, but often differently to each other. Ditto Joanna McCoy.
BTW, Alan Dean Foster didn't get the "Bones" joke, or didn't approve of it being used that way. In the novelization of the 2009 movie, he has McCoy say, "All I got left is my skeleton."
Thank you very much for your insight, Therin of Andor. It was exactly the sort of reply I was hoping for.
I was curious to know more about this decision and Foster's motivation for the alteration. A quick Google search turned up...
Wired.com: In the movie when Kirk met McCoy for the first time, in that shuttle, McCoy said that all he had left was his bones. Well, in the book, I heard the word “skeleton” not “bones.” Did you change that on purpose?
ADF: Yes, I probably did. I wanted to make it a little more subtle. I wanted the reader to make the connection. Instead of saying “all he had left was his bones,” “all he had left was his skeleton,” and then the reader thinks “skeleton,” “Bones.” So I was trying to be a little more subtle about it. And they could have done that in the film, too. “All he had left was his skeleton,” and then people in the audience said, “Oh, Bones!” But everybody has a different way of presenting these things. And again in the film they don’t have time for reflection on these things. They have to give it to you right up front because they just don’t have time.
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/tag/alan-dean-foster
I was curious to know more about this decision and Foster's motivation for the alteration. A quick Google search turned up...
Wired.com: In the movie when Kirk met McCoy for the first time, in that shuttle, McCoy said that all he had left was his bones. Well, in the book, I heard the word “skeleton” not “bones.” Did you change that on purpose?
ADF: Yes, I probably did. I wanted to make it a little more subtle. I wanted the reader to make the connection. Instead of saying “all he had left was his bones,” “all he had left was his skeleton,” and then the reader thinks “skeleton,” “Bones.” So I was trying to be a little more subtle about it. And they could have done that in the film, too. “All he had left was his skeleton,” and then people in the audience said, “Oh, Bones!” But everybody has a different way of presenting these things. And again in the film they don’t have time for reflection on these things. They have to give it to you right up front because they just don’t have time.
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/tag/alan-dean-foster
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I think perhaps Alan Dean Foster has been doing novelizations of movies for so long that he's forgotten what "subtlety" even means.
Assuming he ever knew in the first place (judging by his novelization of "The Black Hole," I doubt it).
Assuming he ever knew in the first place (judging by his novelization of "The Black Hole," I doubt it).
As it will be before you give yours....Go to hell with this you go first immature BS. What are you 6?
Now what was immature about what I said? ( or BillJ's response)You seem to be the one having a tantrum. You and horatio made a claim. I asked for something back up that claim. A reasonable, mature request. Instead of doing so, you said "you first!!!!!". Usually in an adult conversation, its the person making the claim that is required to back up those claims when asked to.
You still haven't explained what you think the vision is or how the new movie violated it...
Care to try again?
No, I think we're done here, and I don't believe Captain Mike ever had any serious intention of contributing anything of real value to this discussion.
What he had to say might (with a certain amount of editing and tidying-up) have made a blog entry focused upon the expression of his continuing unhappiness with the last movie, but Captain Mike didn't choose to do things that way. Instead, beginning with this post and continuing on through several more to this last:
What he had to say might (with a certain amount of editing and tidying-up) have made a blog entry focused upon the expression of his continuing unhappiness with the last movie, but Captain Mike didn't choose to do things that way. Instead, beginning with this post and continuing on through several more to this last:
Captain Mike has in several instances in this thread displayed an inclination to bait rather than to engage in reasonable discussion. This, in spite of the fact that he has more than once previously been cautioned against such behavior and has once received a warning for same, will earn Captain Mike a trolling warning.
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