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Orci: improvements to engine room?

Don't be so sure about that. It looks like two very different concepts for engineering to me. What would be the point of having both?
 
Would anyone have a "canon" issue (or at least an inter-movie consistency issue) if they suddenly changed the engineering sets for ST12 relative to how they looked for ST11 without explanation? I mean, just change the whole way engineering looks without explaining the change?

I personally would not have a problem, considering I know they are just movies.
 
No. It's a refit between movies we didn't see. Anyone should be able to figure that out.

I've helped remodel three different places. They're not canon violations either.
 
Maybe it's a case like the Enterprise-B, the proper engineering doodats aren't installed till Tuesday ;)
 
Trek's done it before: Look at the Enterprise bridge at the end of STIV. Then, as we pick up shortly afterwards in V, it's totally different. It changes again (slightly) for STVI. Engineering in V and VI are totally different, too.

The Dark Knight had a totally different Gotham City to Batman Begins, and nobody cared.
 
Trek's done it before: Look at the Enterprise bridge at the end of STIV. Then, as we pick up shortly afterwards in V, it's totally different. It changes again (slightly) for STVI. Engineering in V and VI are totally different, too.

The Dark Knight had a totally different Gotham City to Batman Begins, and nobody cared.

Oh, and there's Kruge's Bird of Prey, whose bridge totally changed between III and IV.

I completely agree. However, this won't stop the people who feel a desperate need to criticize everything about Abramstrek.
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Would anyone have a "canon" issue (or at least an inter-movie consistency issue) if they suddenly changed the engineering sets for ST12 relative to how they looked for ST11 without explanation? I mean, just change the whole way engineering looks without explaining the change?

I personally would not have a problem, considering I know they are just movies.

It wouldn't bother me at all. Physical changes to ships and other material things between movies can easily be explained even if no explanation is given on screen.

Technology is always changing so things can be upgraded all of the time.
 
Woo Hoo!!!

I translate this into that Orci has seen an actual Engineering Set on the Paramount lot. :)

Now I'm wondering if they'll be dusting off the original production concepts Ryan Church had done back in 2007/08
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Or extract/combine some elements from them.
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From What I understand they are scheduled to film at the bud plant so don't hold your breath about some new fantastic eng set. Maybe some CG enhancements and some physical redress but thats it.

As long as it doesn't screw with the ships 1200M length I am happy
 
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Damn. I was really hoping for a new set.

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I hope that they at least add in more read-out screens and consoles, to give it an more of a tech-center appearance than a factory. I don't mind the industrial look so much, but it just seemed awfully primitive for a 23rd century spacecraft, IMO.
 
I really, really don't like that one. The one here, however, is awesome. No goofy neon tube, just lots of awesome futuristic machinery.

I really like both this image from KingDaniel and also the image Procutus provided! I do like the idea that engineering would be shown to be expansive (which the set(s) from Trek XI did accomplish), but I would ALSO like them to look like "awesome futuristic machinery" (which I feel that the brewery set -even when dressed up a bit with some consoles thrown in- did not do).

Showing all those crew members tending to the engines also helped to create the feeling that this was the critical, busy heart of the ship. That aspect I liked, also.

As others have said, if we get a slightly modified or greatly modified engineering section for the next movie, we can chalk it up to an upgrade made after the events of Trek XI--- no onscreen explanation needed! :)
 
As others have said, if we get a slightly modified or greatly modified engineering section for the next movie, we can chalk it up to an upgrade made after the events of Trek XI--- no onscreen explanation needed! :)



Agreed. Tech changes all the time, and I'm assuming that there should be an elapse of several years between the events of both films. It's just an upgrade that took place somewhere inbetween.

RAMA, is that image you provided from the CERN facility? That too, would make for a great engineering set.
 
As others have said, if we get a slightly modified or greatly modified engineering section for the next movie, we can chalk it up to an upgrade made after the events of Trek XI--- no onscreen explanation needed! :)



Agreed. Tech changes all the time, and I'm assuming that there should be an elapse of several years between the events of both films. It's just an upgrade that took place somewhere inbetween.

RAMA, is that image you provided from the CERN facility? That too, would make for a great engineering set.

Yes, indeed it is!
 
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