Holiday tree. That bothers me more than anything.
There is no Hannukah tree. There is no Kwanzaa tree. There is no New Years tree.
It's a Christmas tree.
What don't you like about Christmas?
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There is no Hannukah tree. There is no Kwanzaa tree. There is no New Years tree.
It's a Christmas tree.
Woosh.
Right over your head.
Hint: You take what I write way too seriously.
Right over your head.
Hint: You take what I write way too seriously.
Wait, what?
Seriously?
That's just bizarre.
Seriously?
That's just bizarre.
Seriously.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/6/providences-holiday-tree-controversy-takes-root/
It actually made the news in Illinois (where I live) that our governor was still going to call it a Christmas tree.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/6/providences-holiday-tree-controversy-takes-root/
It actually made the news in Illinois (where I live) that our governor was still going to call it a Christmas tree.
Anyone getting genuinely upset about it being called a "holiday tree" should probably get a grip.
Just stop singing "O Christmas tree" and sing the German "O Tannenbaum" instead. It just translates as "O fir tree". So nobody will be upset. 
I just find it weird. Putting up a tree and decorating it is part of the Christmas tradition. It has nothing to do with the other holidays. Calling it a "holiday tree" isn't being inclusive; it's being stupid.
No, it's being accurate, considering the practice of bringing an evergreen into your house around the winter solstice is pagan in origin. It's just another pagan tradition Christianity adopted (such as the very notion of celebrating Christ's birth around the winter solstice.)
Fox News should focus more on "The War on Christmas Trees".
Maybe they can trick some environmentalist into supporting it. Trees have feelings, too after all!*
* Shit, no. That's ents.
Maybe they can trick some environmentalist into supporting it. Trees have feelings, too after all!*
* Shit, no. That's ents.
For Ents, this time of year must seem like some kind of Holocaust.
This reasoning is starting to get really old. How many pagans do we have these days going around having Winter Solstice celebrations? I'm not going to do the research, but I'm guessing we have a hell of a lot more people in this country celebrating Christmas. The tree, regardless of its origins, is now Christmas tradition.
I guess calling it a holiday tree is technically accurate in that it includes people who celebrate Christmas as well as, ya know, those random pagans that people keep talking about. I'm glad we're being so inclusive. Wouldn't want the pagans to feel left out.
I'm actually friends a couple bona fide pagans.
The notion that Christians "own" the idea of a holiday tree is pretty absurd, though. I guess Christianity isn't happy with stamping out virtually all competing religions, everywhere it took root over the past 2000 years. You gotta keep any of 'em from popping back up. Don't like the competition, I guess.
I didn't realize the phrase "holiday tree" was so offensive.
I never said Christians own the tree, but there are trees that are very obviously Christmas trees. If you put out a big ass tree and cover it with Christmas decorations, it's a fucking Christmas tree. I guarantee the Governor of Rhode Island wasn't thinking about pagans when he decided to change the name to "holiday tree."
If you want an all-inclusive holiday tree, I expect to see Baby Jesuses and Menorahs and Santa Clauses and...Kwanzaa things...and pagan decorations covering that tree.
If you want an all-inclusive holiday tree, I expect to see Baby Jesuses and Menorahs and Santa Clauses and...Kwanzaa things...and pagan decorations covering that tree.
That's actually what they did to the tree at my job. Everyone was invited to put things on it, regardless of what they believe. Some pretty silly stuff wound up on it. It was fun.
Why so angry and bitter about this?
Political correctness gone loco.
I wonder when one of these jokers decides that dreidels have to be called holiday spinning tops to not insult ... whomever.
I can name other very visible holidays, like Veteran's Day and 4th of July. Just the pre-celebratory stuff doesn't happen as much since they aren't as commercialized, but I would wager that the days themselves are celebrated (in America) at least as vigorously as Christmas.
Maybe you would find interesting that those multicoloured globes on the tree are pagan decorations. In fact, there is nothing about the trees that is actually related to Christmas.
I wouldn't care if one calls it a Christmas tree or a Holiday tree. The former one is lazy and actually inaccurate, but I don't really care. But getting irate about it being called what it actually is (i.e. a holiday decoration that has nothing to do with Christmas), that's just stupid.
Because I'm booooooored.
If people don't want to call it Christmas tree, which is how it's widely known wherever I've been, I don't know what else to call it. It's certainly not a menorah.
Again, this is one of those instances when people are offended by the use of certain terminologies, and I find it very offensive that people are offended. I'm going to start being defensive.
Again, this is one of those instances when people are offended by the use of certain terminologies, and I find it very offensive that people are offended. I'm going to start being defensive.
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