Is it just me, or are Vulcans a bunch of jerks?
- Thread starter A.V.I.A.F.
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Vulcans certainly came across as less than stellar in the Enterprise series, and even in the 2009 feature film, but overall I don't think they are jerks or annoying. They are simply intellectuals. They form the backbone-along with humans-of the Federation. That makes them worth tolerating.
Nope. Star Trek, especially in Season One of TOS, is a work in progress. Many ideas were tossed against the wall. A few stuck and some fell off. The ones that stick become "canon" or part of continuity. Sometimes even an idea that stuck gets knocked off by another idea.
Exactly. They were making up the terminology as they went along and the Federation wasn't mentioned for several episodes. Particularly in the first season, the terminology varied from ep to ep: "Space Command," "Vulcanian," "lithium crystals," etc.
Heck, we didn't even know Vulcans were telepathic until "Dagger of the Mind"--despite lots of dialogue about psychic abilities in earlier episodes.
Careful, the words "making up as they went along" might enrage the continuity-obsessed crowd.
In which case they are probably in need of a reality check!
Most of it can be made to work with a little thought, even it the face of later pronouncements.
Space command isn't too bad, Harry Mudd's use of Vulcanian keys in nicely with the Vulcan children's use of "Earther." Lithium for dilthium the same way gas is short for gasoline.
No one is saying you can't "make it work" given a little thought. That's not the point Greg and I were making. We're talking about the process that created Star Trek not the rationalizations that followed.Most of it can be made to work with a little thought, even it the face of later pronouncements.
Space command isn't too bad, Harry Mudd's use of Vulcanian keys in nicely with the Vulcan children's use of "Earther." Lithium for dilthium the same way gas is short for gasoline.
A.V.I.A.F.
Captain
I recall him doing it twice. Once in Errand of Mercy and again in By Any Other Name (in which a reference is made back to Spock's talent for doing this in Errand of Mercy).
Which doesn't mean that the Federation didn't exist retroactively which is in fact how It came to be. Just because they didn't say it doesn't mean it wasn't there.
A.V.I.A.F.
Captain
Well they referred to Starfleet as UESPA and the only Federation that was referred to during the early episodes was the First Federation of Balok. By the way, I came across an old Christmas ornament that reminded me of the Fesarius. What do you think:
A.V.I.A.F.
Captain
Actually, no. It is a store-bought glass tree ornament from the late 60s-early 70s and was actually quite expensive at the time.
A.V.I.A.F.
Captain
I hope so! That boy needed some character-building. That would make for a great villain in a TOS novel come to think of it!
It wasn't "Errand of Mercy." It was "A Taste of Armageddon."
A.V.I.A.F.
Captain
The first mention of Starfleet in Court Martial predates the UESPA in Tomorrow is Yesterday by six episodes. Kirk referring to the UESPA as "our authority" could just mean their authority in that (future) section of the Federation. Most fans would agree that there is going to be a United Earth at some point. And the Federation does show up two episodes later.
