Will the star trek alternate continuity have food synthesizers like in the original series? and Will they abolish the use of money like in the original movies?
Technology and society of the alternate continuity
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Word of God (i.e. from the writers) is that there is "some form of currency" in use on Earth, as per numerous money references in TOS. As for the alt-future, who knows?
(incidentally, a Voyager episode put the phasing out of money in the 22nd century, not the 23rd
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Food synthesizers... why not? They had them in Star Trek: Ente rprise, a century prior. Just because we didn't see them in STXI, doesn't mean they're not there. Expect them to look a lot more modern and cool than they used to, though!
(incidentally, a Voyager episode put the phasing out of money in the 22nd century, not the 23rd
)Food synthesizers... why not? They had them in Star Trek: Ente rprise, a century prior. Just because we didn't see them in STXI, doesn't mean they're not there. Expect them to look a lot more modern and cool than they used to, though!
Word of God (i.e. from the writers) is that there is "some form of currency" in use on Earth, as per numerous money references in TOS. As for the alt-future, who knows?
(incidentally, a Voyager episode put the phasing out of money in the 22nd century, not the 23rd
Food synthesizers... why not? They had them in Star Trek: Ente rprise, a century prior. Just because we didn't see them in STXI, doesn't mean they're not there. Expect them to look a lot more modern and cool than they used to, though!
It would be cool too see how abrams would do the food synthesizer. I hope it is in the movie they are currently working on.
as for the other topic
Here it says there is money or some kind of credits system.
http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/22/orci-and-kurtzman-reveal-star-trek-details-in-trekmovie-fan-qa/
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For either timeline, I like the idea that there's "some kind of money" on Earth in the 23rd C with full-on commie hippiedom descending only by the 24th. Ditto for the replicator - doesn't exist in the 23rd C, but does by the 24th. "Food synthesizers" can be the 23rd C precursor to the replicator.
Basically, there should be a transition between the 23rd and 24th C, not just both being the same in terms of economics and technology.
I do not accept VOY as canonical on anything I don't like.
22nd C should be downright capitalistic by Trek standards and also there should still be TV, although it would be mostly a nostalgic niche taste.
Basically, there should be a transition between the 23rd and 24th C, not just both being the same in terms of economics and technology.
(incidentally, a Voyager episode put the phasing out of money in the 22nd century, not the 23rd
I do not accept VOY as canonical on anything I don't like.
22nd C should be downright capitalistic by Trek standards and also there should still be TV, although it would be mostly a nostalgic niche taste.
The dialog in "Patterns of Force" would seem to indicate that the computer made McCoy's Gestapo uniform.For either timeline, I like the idea that there's "some kind of money" on Earth in the 23rd C with full-on commie hippiedom descending only by the 24th. Ditto for the replicator - doesn't exist in the 23rd C, but does by the 24th. "Food synthesizers" can be the 23rd C precursor to the replicator.
Basically, there should be a transition between the 23rd and 24th C, not just both being the same in terms of economics and technology.
(incidentally, a Voyager episode put the phasing out of money in the 22nd century, not the 23rd
I do not accept VOY as canonical on anything I don't like.
didn't Uhura buy the tribble from Cyrano Jones for 5 credits? So there has to be some sort of money used in the Federation during the 23rd century.
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For either timeline, I like the idea that there's "some kind of money" on Earth in the 23rd C with full-on commie hippiedom descending only by the 24th. Ditto for the replicator - doesn't exist in the 23rd C, but does by the 24th. "Food synthesizers" can be the 23rd C precursor to the replicator.
Basically, there should be a transition between the 23rd and 24th C, not just both being the same in terms of economics and technology.
(incidentally, a Voyager episode put the phasing out of money in the 22nd century, not the 23rd
I do not accept VOY as canonical on anything I don't like.
That still doesn't explain kirk saying they abolished money in one of the movies
The question is not whether there is money or not but whether it is implied that the crew of the Enterprise cares about it or not. Trek has always been pretty vague and ambiguous about economic matters but that the main characters do what they do mainly because they like it and not because it earns them more money than a different occupation has been so in all variations of Trek.
I think that ST09 shows Kirk's motivations very nicely, he wants the ship, he wants to make a difference, he wants to fill his father's shoes. But it seems as if McCoy joined Starfleet because he had to. I hope they avoid such questionable lines in the next movie.
MCCOY: Yeah, well, got nowhere else to go. The ex-wife took the whole damn planet in the divorce. All I've got left is my bones.
I think that ST09 shows Kirk's motivations very nicely, he wants the ship, he wants to make a difference, he wants to fill his father's shoes. But it seems as if McCoy joined Starfleet because he had to. I hope they avoid such questionable lines in the next movie.
MCCOY: Yeah, well, got nowhere else to go. The ex-wife took the whole damn planet in the divorce. All I've got left is my bones.
McCoy's life was screwed, and he wanted to get away and start over. He FELT he had to, which is a universe away from actually having to. McCoy got the bum end of the divorce, yeah. But shit happens.
And the miners on Janus IV were hoping to get rich, etc.
Honestly, it probably depends on what planet you're on, and how far out you are on the final frontier. Some of the more civilized planets may have phased out currency, but out on the frontier where most of TOS is set, you still have struggling miners, mail-order brides, greedy con men, thieves, bartenders, shopkeepers, money, etc.
When you have a choice you don't take a job that involves having to deal with your phobia day and night.
He could have boarded a ship to another planet and worked as a doctor there. Starfleet was a choice for McCoy. A fresh start and a clean break with his prior life.
I admit that I am reading the scene (too) literally.
One could perhaps interpret it like this: he suffers from slight aviophobia but exaggerates it in typical Bones manner, in fact he is up for an adventure and feeling a bit uneasy about it is in a strange, gives-me-a-kick way enjoyable to him.
One could compare it e.g. to his fear of the transporter, he nonetheless goes through it.
One could perhaps interpret it like this: he suffers from slight aviophobia but exaggerates it in typical Bones manner, in fact he is up for an adventure and feeling a bit uneasy about it is in a strange, gives-me-a-kick way enjoyable to him.
One could compare it e.g. to his fear of the transporter, he nonetheless goes through it.
Actually this makes some sense. He was always bitter to some extent about the federation and maybe has nto felt like he wants to be part of it, but on the other hand he wants to use his knowledge of medicine to help people.
Actually, he doesn't say that at all. Certainly nothing about money being abolished, or not existing; merely that he and his people don't use it.
The only exchange about money (that I can remember from the films) is from "The Voyage Home", and is, in its entirety:
Dr. Gillian Taylor: Don't tell me... you don't use money in the 23rd Century?
Kirk: Well, we don't.
He says nothing about money being "abolished", n ever even implies that it doesn't exist; merely that"we" (he and his people) don't use it.
And even that might be a statement of generality, and not an absolute. As in they use cash at times, but not so frequently that they carry any with them on a regular basis, and that even if he did have any on him, that it wouldn't be in any form that it'd likely be recognized as currency in your average Italian restaurant in late 20th Century America.
Kirk got a hundred for his glasses at the hock shop, divide it between the three groups (equally?), he and Spock took a bus ride and paid to enter the whale institute, they were seen walking after that.
For those who were adults in the mid 1980's, would Kirk have had any money left? Enough to buy two beers and a pizza in a sit down restaurant? Of course, Gillian invited him to the restaurant, it was very sexist of her to then expect him (the male) to pay.
Kirk made references to money during the series, and he later is seen to own a fairly nice house in the country.
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