New rumor about Star Trek 2 villian

[Franklin]

Again with the Klingons! Actually, I take this as good news, if it's true.

As far as the carnivorous tribbles go (with "sharp pointy teeth," I hope), that sounds as far out as the rumor that circulated before STIV that it would be about saving the whales.

Maybe this movie will be a darker and larger-scale take on "The Trouble with Tribbles".

 

[Procutus]

Whatever happened to guys like Kor or Tomalak, who were part of some huge, intimidating military force, but were also compelling as hell in their own right? I want to see the new Kirk go up against one of THOSE guys.

This. I too, would like to see Klingons who are representative of the race as a whole in this reality, and Kirk dealing with the mindset of military Klingon commander, not some rogue group or agent.

It would be nice to see either Kor or Kang in this new universe.

 

[JarodRussell]

I always had the impression TNG Klingons are an exaggerated model of the Japanese culture. Honor, warriors, martial arts, all that stuff. Politically, they always were the Russians/Soviets, though.

 

[Gojira]

I always had the impression TNG Klingons are an exaggerated model of the Japanese culture. Honor, warriors, martial arts, all that stuff. Politically, they always were the Russians/Soviets, though.

I think in the original series they were the Russians and pure bad guys. It wasn't until TNG did they become honorable warriors.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Klingons are fine as long as Abrams leaves out the honourrrrrrrrrrrrrr shtick.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

As far as the carnivorous tribbles go (with "sharp pointy teeth," I hope), that sounds as far out as the rumor that circulated before STIV that it would be about saving the whales.

That or they were just playing Star Trek Online.

 

[malchya]

Carnivorous Tribbles? I'm suddenly just tired all over.....

I would love to see the Klingons as the antagonists so long as they are handled in an intelligent fashion. Roddenberry first envisioned Star Trek as "Hornblower in Space" and Hornblower would never have been as interesting had his enemies been a pack of unbelievable samurai pirates as opposed to the professional navy of Imperial France. Something that I think Bennett, Berman and Co. just didn't consider.

I hold out hope for better things.

 

[MisterPL]

Well, the Klingons have always represented the US's greatest fear at the time.

You mean... Mexicans?

 

[F. King Daniel]

As far as the carnivorous tribbles go (with "sharp pointy teeth," I hope), that sounds as far out as the rumor that circulated before STIV that it would be about saving the whales.

That or they were just playing Star Trek Online.

Or FASA's Trek RPG in the 80's.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Well, the Klingons have always represented the US's greatest fear at the time.

You mean... Mexicans?

In which case, they'll have to be reinvented as a financial meltdown and depression this time out.

 

[Trekkie2]

Not really.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/House_of_Duras

In TNG they were a more "influential" force, but in Enterprise, they were not.

So? What has that to do with being a "nomadic sect"? Not a thing, really.

Yes, the Duras in Enterprise was no more than a ship commander - from all appearances given more to excuses and deceit than real competence (though that quality would be consistent with what we were shown of later members of the House in TNG eps and movies - indeed, treachery seems to be the primary means by which they became more influential.) In either case, however, Duras is a family name, and that's it. Whatever this "Nomadic sect of warrior aliens" might turn out to be, I can't see any reason at all for assuming that they and the House of Duras are the same thing.

Yeah, well, I think I'll stick with my conjecture. It's just as good as anybody else's.

 

[The Castellan]

If the Klingons are the bad guys, will we see birds of prey with cloaking device? But cloaking device was mentioned at the end of the third season in TOS, "The Enterprise Incident". This would be a change in the timeline.

Like that's gonna stop Jar Jar, he did a lot of continuity cluster f*cks already. Plus he's going to come up with some LAME reason of the Kelvin incident changing EVERYTHING.

But all I can say is, *`-assumes sarcastic voice- "Oh yay....another villain to deal with. Maybe if I'm really lucky, Jar Jar will team up with another assho, err, big name director, like Michael Bay, and make so-called Trek films for the next decade! Next Film: Star Trek 3: Kirk becomes a bigger jerk, Scotty puts flames and hydrolics on the Enterprise's engines, Emo Spock cornholes Uhura in the brewery, and Sulu actually does something useful."

-Clears throat-
I agree with that line Picard brought up in Insurrection, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"

Once something like THAT happens, I might actually say something nice about Jar Jar...but I doubt we'll see that happen.

Oh, and who wants to bet the toys are going to be yet again taking up space on the clearance ranks two months after this film's out?

 

[Tom Servo]

If the Klingons are the bad guys, will we see birds of prey with cloaking device? But cloaking device was mentioned at the end of the third season in TOS, "The Enterprise Incident". This would be a change in the timeline.

Like that's gonna stop Jar Jar, he did a lot of continuity cluster f*cks already. Plus he's going to come up with some LAME reason of the Kelvin incident changing EVERYTHING.

But all I can say is, *`-assumes sarcastic voice- "Oh yay....another villain to deal with. Maybe if I'm really lucky, Jar Jar will team up with another assho, err, big name director, like Michael Bay, and make so-called Trek films for the next decade! Next Film: Star Trek 3: Kirk becomes a bigger jerk, Scotty puts flames and hydrolics on the Enterprise's engines, Emo Spock cornholes Uhura in the brewery, and Sulu actually does something useful."

-Clears throat-
I agree with that line Picard brought up in Insurrection, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"

Once something like THAT happens, I might actually say something nice about Jar Jar...but I doubt we'll see that happen.

Oh, and who wants to bet the toys are going to be yet again taking up space on the clearance ranks two months after this film's out?

And who wants to bet that the film will be another smash success, the like of which Trek hadn't seen for years?

Oh yes, but the toys failed...big dig there...

 

[The Castellan]

If the Klingons are the bad guys, will we see birds of prey with cloaking device? But cloaking device was mentioned at the end of the third season in TOS, "The Enterprise Incident". This would be a change in the timeline.

Like that's gonna stop Jar Jar, he did a lot of continuity cluster f*cks already. Plus he's going to come up with some LAME reason of the Kelvin incident changing EVERYTHING.

But all I can say is, *`-assumes sarcastic voice- "Oh yay....another villain to deal with. Maybe if I'm really lucky, Jar Jar will team up with another assho, err, big name director, like Michael Bay, and make so-called Trek films for the next decade! Next Film: Star Trek 3: Kirk becomes a bigger jerk, Scotty puts flames and hydrolics on the Enterprise's engines, Emo Spock cornholes Uhura in the brewery, and Sulu actually does something useful."

-Clears throat-
I agree with that line Picard brought up in Insurrection, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"

Once something like THAT happens, I might actually say something nice about Jar Jar...but I doubt we'll see that happen.

Oh, and who wants to bet the toys are going to be yet again taking up space on the clearance ranks two months after this film's out?

And who wants to bet that the film will be another smash success, the like of which Trek hadn't seen for years?

Oh yes, but the toys failed...big dig there...

Yea, but if Trek's become dumbed down for the mainstream, joe sixpack, I don't want any bit of it.

I feel with some actual work, one could make a Trek story that appeals to BOTH Joe Sixpack and longtime Trek fans. Star Wars and Super Heros are big, but I don't find anything appealing with them. I'm more into anime and Dr. Who than those, and it's impossible to find 'em here in America, anymore.....oh, how I miss the 1990's, when one could find both of those in abundance.

I mean Dancing with the Stars and NASCAR's big, don't mean I'm gonna switch off my brain off and sit next to Joe Sixpack and Plain Jane and watch it, just cause it's cool....er, "K3W7"

 

[Tom Servo]

Like that's gonna stop Jar Jar, he did a lot of continuity cluster f*cks already. Plus he's going to come up with some LAME reason of the Kelvin incident changing EVERYTHING.

But all I can say is, *`-assumes sarcastic voice- "Oh yay....another villain to deal with. Maybe if I'm really lucky, Jar Jar will team up with another assho, err, big name director, like Michael Bay, and make so-called Trek films for the next decade! Next Film: Star Trek 3: Kirk becomes a bigger jerk, Scotty puts flames and hydrolics on the Enterprise's engines, Emo Spock cornholes Uhura in the brewery, and Sulu actually does something useful."

-Clears throat-
I agree with that line Picard brought up in Insurrection, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"

Once something like THAT happens, I might actually say something nice about Jar Jar...but I doubt we'll see that happen.

Oh, and who wants to bet the toys are going to be yet again taking up space on the clearance ranks two months after this film's out?

And who wants to bet that the film will be another smash success, the like of which Trek hadn't seen for years?

Oh yes, but the toys failed...big dig there...

Yea, but if Trek's become dumbed down for the mainstream, joe sixpack, I don't want any bit of it.

I feel with some actual work, one could make a Trek story that appeals to BOTH Joe Sixpack and longtime Trek fans. Star Wars and Super Heros are big, but I don't find anything appealing with them. I'm more into anime and Dr. Who than those, and it's impossible to find 'em here in America, anymore.....oh, how I miss the 1990's, when one could find both of those in abundance.

I mean Dancing with the Stars and NASCAR's big, don't mean I'm gonna switch off my brain off and sit next to Joe Sixpack and Plain Jane and watch it, just cause it's cool....er, "K3W7"

Thats nice. Don't watch it then. I'll gladly continue to, since it was the most exciting Trek since the DS9 era.

 

[ALF]

Villian(s) plural.
It all sounds sort of muddy and jumbled.
If they have that many ideas, why not do two or three films? Or a series?
I like everything I hear except Khan. I'd rather we explore some strange new worlds.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Like that's gonna stop Jar Jar, he did a lot of continuity cluster f*cks already. Plus he's going to come up with some LAME reason of the Kelvin incident changing EVERYTHING.

But all I can say is, *`-assumes sarcastic voice- "Oh yay....another villain to deal with. Maybe if I'm really lucky, Jar Jar will team up with another assho, err, big name director, like Michael Bay, and make so-called Trek films for the next decade! Next Film: Star Trek 3: Kirk becomes a bigger jerk, Scotty puts flames and hydrolics on the Enterprise's engines, Emo Spock cornholes Uhura in the brewery, and Sulu actually does something useful."

-Clears throat-
I agree with that line Picard brought up in Insurrection, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"

Once something like THAT happens, I might actually say something nice about Jar Jar...but I doubt we'll see that happen.

Oh, and who wants to bet the toys are going to be yet again taking up space on the clearance ranks two months after this film's out?

And who wants to bet that the film will be another smash success, the like of which Trek hadn't seen for years?

Oh yes, but the toys failed...big dig there...

Yea, but if Trek's become dumbed down for the mainstream, joe sixpack, I don't want any bit of it.

I feel with some actual work, one could make a Trek story that appeals to BOTH Joe Sixpack and longtime Trek fans. Star Wars and Super Heros are big, but I don't find anything appealing with them. I'm more into anime and Dr. Who than those, and it's impossible to find 'em here in America, anymore.....oh, how I miss the 1990's, when one could find both of those in abundance.

I mean Dancing with the Stars and NASCAR's big, don't mean I'm gonna switch off my brain off and sit next to Joe Sixpack and Plain Jane and watch it, just cause it's cool....er, "K3W7"

[Yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OpKBNqmSZo&feature=fvsr[/yt]

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I agree with that line Picard brought up in Insurrection, "Remember when we used to be explorers?"

Picard was referring to the pansy-ass 24th C. Trek XII will be in the kick-ass 23rd C, when space was more dangerous and Starfleet was more militaristic. I don't remember Kirk doing much in the way of diplomacy vs playing space cop or blowing up some aliens and when Starfleet inflicted a diplomatic mission on him, somebody always ended up being brainwashed by an alien princess or knifed in the gut. Clearly not his forte.

But more to the point, exploration without action is boring. The first two seasons of ENT proved that.

 

[The Castellan]

Oh, sorry for me thinking of the idea of something more interesting than blowing up crap all the time. And if that makes me a pansy myself, fine than I am a pansy, and proud of it. I bask in my pansiness.

 

[Satyrquaze]

Sometimes that Onion clip needs to be posted and reposted, so that some people can hear how ridiculous they sound.