The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credita and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

Doubt it. The TNG font is about as iconic as the episode itself.

But they would at least have to re-do the text, even if it's in the same font. Isn't that right? As has been pointed out, the text is a SD image that would surely need to be redone in CGI, like they are doing with phaser blasts, explosions, etc.

Although I like the 'new' text (that we have seen in these preview images) very much and I wish they'd use that instead.

 

[Tosk]

And I'm glad they won't be, so it evens out.

 

[TheSeeker]

I've really got to stop visiting this thread. Every time I do I it just makes me want to watch it NOW!

 

[Squiggy]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credita and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

Doubt it. The TNG font is about as iconic as the episode itself.

But they would at least have to re-do the text, even if it's in the same font. Isn't that right? As has been pointed out, the text is a SD image that would surely need to be redone in CGI, like they are doing with phaser blasts, explosions, etc.

Although I like the 'new' text (that we have seen in these preview images) very much and I wish they'd use that instead.

Yes. They'll re-edit the titles and I'm sure it will be in the original font since their goal is to change as little as possible.

 

[22 Stars]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credita and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

Doubt it. The TNG font is about as iconic as the episode itself.

True, but I like the metallic flying logo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV7J8Re0QHc&feature=related&hd=1

RAMA

I'm sure they will have fun trying to replicate the different logo styles. I'm hoping they just release the opening credits this month or next as a further tease!

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

The more I think about it, the more I realise that the Blu-rays may just be untenable for me.

Since 1987, or rather 1988 when the BBC started showing it. I have watched TNG in PAL, on TV, on video and lately DVD. That's 4% faster than NTSC regions.

Watching the trailer for the Blu-ray, I noticed how sharp and clear everything was, but only after being struck by how slow the music was, and how slow everyone was speaking. Worf's little speech in front of the High Council seemed especially interminable. I don't know if I'll be able to watch it at the correct 24fps if everyone will sound like they're on dope!

 

[TheSeeker]

I've had the opposite reaction to you. I've tried watching PAL versions of TNG a few times but I just can't stand the higher pitch of everyone's voice.

 

[Captain Robert April]

It did make for a weird viewing experience when seeing TOS on BBC back in the mid 80's. The colors were spectacular, but everyone sounded like they were on helium.

 

[Jon1701]

My TOS Blurays sound fine in PAL.

I think we'll be okay.

 

[JJohnson]

I've had the opposite reaction to you. I've tried watching PAL versions of TNG a few times but I just can't stand the higher pitch of everyone's voice.

THAT must be why Chakotay's voice in Voyager sounded so much higher than I remembered. My versions must be PAL!

 

[22 Stars]

The more I think about it, the more I realise that the Blu-rays may just be untenable for me.

Since 1987, or rather 1988 when the BBC started showing it. I have watched TNG in PAL, on TV, on video and lately DVD. That's 4% faster than NTSC regions.

Watching the trailer for the Blu-ray, I noticed how sharp and clear everything was, but only after being struck by how slow the music was, and how slow everyone was speaking. Worf's little speech in front of the High Council seemed especially interminable. I don't know if I'll be able to watch it at the correct 24fps if everyone will sound like they're on dope!

Even I thought it was brutally slow, and I've never seen them sped up on PAL. I think that was just a bad line and delivery by Mr. Dorn.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I've had the opposite reaction to you. I've tried watching PAL versions of TNG a few times but I just can't stand the higher pitch of everyone's voice.

I find it really annoying, in a very bad way.

 

[RAMA]

Testing new avatar.

SUCCESS!!

Yeah, laser TVs were becoming outmoded at the end of the 19th century although they were a lot less heavy than the old steam-powered ones, which were once seen as a great step forward over the waterwheel-powered TVs. Or so Miss Haversham told me...

I understood what he meant, tv technology was considered backwards by many...it stayed much the same for a long time, with few improvements till the late 90s, even bigger changes in the 21st century.

RAMA

Early televisions may have been primitive technologically, but the shows were the best, like Perry Masonry and Alvin Brickrock Presents.

Well that's a whole different thread...

I've really got to stop visiting this thread. Every time I do I it just makes me want to watch it NOW!

HAHA! They've/we've got you now!

 

[Ghostface1701]

My TOS Blurays sound fine in PAL.

I think we'll be okay.

PAL/NTSC is not relevent to Blu-ray (least not the HD video), the EU blu-rays will have the same framerate as US discs.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I've had the opposite reaction to you. I've tried watching PAL versions of TNG a few times but I just can't stand the higher pitch of everyone's voice.

I find it really annoying, in a very bad way.

So I guess this is the reason why everyone on Law & Order: UK (including the doink-doink) sounds too low-pitched on the US releases of the DVDs?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

^ I have no idea about that, not having watched an episode, not knowing how it was converted for DVD release in the US, etc.

 

[Captain Robert April]

The "doink doink" on L&O: UK sounded just fine to me.

 

[ATimson]

PAL/NTSC is not relevent to Blu-ray (least not the HD video), the EU blu-rays will have the same framerate as US discs.

For stuff shot at 24 FPS (or even 29.97 FPS), yes. Content shot at 25 FPS needs to be framerate-converted or slowed down for release in the US, since most players here do not support 25 FPS content. (Fortunately, I have one of the few. Though oddly enough it only supports it on Blu-rays, not on DVDs...)

So I guess this is the reason why everyone on Law & Order: UK (including the doink-doink) sounds too low-pitched on the US releases of the DVDs?

It depends on how they were made. (I imported the UK DVDs, so I don't know how the US ones are.) They could have slowed the picture down, or they could have done a framerate conversion. Normally they do the latter for converting UK content, so pitch should've been unchanged, but Universal may have taken a different tack than what I'm used to seeing on 2Entertain's releases.

 

[22 Stars]

I always thought it was more of a bong-bong as opposed to a doink-doink....

 

[RAMA]

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