It's a damn shame that PETA's antics distract from real issues like animal abuse and hunting violations.
PETA says "NO!" To Super Mario's tanooki
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In Japanese culture, I shit you not, the "Tanuki" are traditionally portrayed as having comically gigantic testicles.
How come no one ever brings THAT one up?
How come no one ever brings THAT one up?
Why would we? It's just a quirk of Japanese culture and as far as I'm aware it's never been used in a video game.
Agreed.
I heard about this over on another board I'm on and I thought it was rather silly of them to go after a pretend video character who was wearing a costume.
Not real fur.
Indeed. In the game what "evidence" is there that Mario slays the animals and uses their hide as the costume? It could be made of mushroom polymers for all we know.
And let us not forget the hypocrisy in PETA, one of their key members -and I'm sure many other members- is diabetic.
Diabetic in the sense they need insulin shots to maintain a healthy blood-sugar level.
Insulin that is derived from pig's blood.
Oh, and let us not forget they kill more animals in their shelters and homes than they save.
They deny pretty much all of medical science by claiming animals testing isn't useful in helping humans. (Even though pretty much all of medical science including cures and procedures done every day all began in animal testing.)
And they're pretty much have openly supported terrorism.
Ugh.
PETA is so full of shit.
People generally have a mistaken impression of what PETA is. They hear the phrase "ethical treatment" and think that means being nice to animals and treating them humanely like the SPCA or the Humane Society. Actually it refers to an ethical system that has its roots in the animal liberation movement. PETA has actually said they have no quarrels with the death of all domesticated animals because they feel that are an unnatural man-made concept. Their goal is pretty much a world where humans have no interaction with animals whatsoever.
I lost every last shred of respect I might have had for them the day they demanded that the Pet Shop Boys change their name to Rescue Shelter Boys.
Oh, come on, don't you think it has a nice ring to it?
The hilarious thing about PETA is that they always seem to totally miss the point about pop-culture references. This one, they missed it by 20 years.
Actually, most of the insulin is produced by genetically modified bacteria. Pig's pancreas' are still used, but very few people actually use that stuff today.
That doesn't change the fact that PETA is pretty fucked up.
This. Peta is usually silly/crazy (but I'm not going to complain about the nekkid ladies), but I always feel that many people use Peta's antics to smear all animal protection organizations and issues.
But that's the only thing that PETA is good for.I am never going to pose nude for PETA!
Won't somebody think of the frogs?
PETA silliness/insanity as usual.
Well, that may be. But you could argue that genetically modified bacteria still violates PETA's code of ethics in one major way.
First of all, it's a science and skill we have because of animal testing. So using even genetically produced insulin still is a result of animal testing. We didn't just discover how to make it out of thin-air and started pumping it into humans. So it's still the product of animal "abuse" and supports the concept of animal testing.
Like, they may wear fake furs and leathers as their clothing. Which while may not have actually harmed and animal it still perpetuates the fashion of using animals for appealing clothing.
And PETA's "total animal liberation" idea is just complete and total nonsense and has no basis in reality. Really, I wish these people would stop getting government support/funding and they'd just go away because they've never once said or done anything logical, their long-term goal is illogical and impossible and they've supported acts of terrorism and/or violence.
As I am a fully sentient human being, my right to exist trumps that of some bacteria (I was diagnosed after the shift from Pig and Cow derived Insulin) which is used to allow me to be alive and not dead!
Americans......
According to this site, all of PETA's funding comes from private foundations and individual donors. They get no government support.
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As I am a fully sentient human being, my right to exist trumps that of some bacteria (I was diagnosed after the shift from Pig and Cow derived Insulin) which is used to allow me to be alive and not dead!
Americans......
and I agree, a human life certainly does trump an animal's or even bacteria's. That wasn't my argument.
My argument was on PETA members who are insulin. They're on insulin that's either obtained from a pig pancreas or from bacteria/other methods.
But those other methods did not come from the sky, they're a product of animal testing. In fact all medical science comes from animal testing of some fashion.
So PETA members who are, well, pretty much alive are hypocrites because they're benefiting in one way or another from animal testing or some use of animals to produce something. It's impossible to operate in society today 100% free from an impact on animals. We need animals for the simple fact of making modern life possible. Without animals how do we experiment with new drugs or medical techniques without harming humans?
PETA is full of shit. They don't really want total animal liberation they simply want the appearance of it.
As I am a fully sentient human being, my right to exist trumps that of some bacteria (I was diagnosed after the shift from Pig and Cow derived Insulin) which is used to allow me to be alive and not dead!
Americans......
and I agree, a human life certainly does trump an animal's or even bacteria's. That wasn't my argument.
My argument was on PETA members who are insulin. They're on insulin that's either obtained from a pig pancreas or from bacteria/other methods.
But those other methods did not come from the sky, they're a product of animal testing. In fact all medical science comes from animal testing of some fashion.
So PETA members who are, well, pretty much alive are hypocrites because they're benefiting in one way or another from animal testing or some use of animals to produce something. It's impossible to operate in society today 100% free from an impact on animals. We need animals for the simple fact of making modern life possible. Without animals how do we experiment with new drugs or medical techniques without harming humans?
PETA is full of shit. They don't really want total animal liberation they simply want the appearance of it.
I want to say one thing first; we should be careful with animals, and nice to them as much as possible. And aside from necessary testing, I believe we should avoid needless killing and etc. It could also be that some of our factory farms and procedures are ill conceived and destructive to our health and the future. Having said that, PETA, though paved with good intentions, is going too far. Unfortunately, they are pushing people away from constructive changes in food processing, farming, hunting and how we treat animals.
What's funny, is that progressive Star Trek, ironically, is partially responsible for some resistance to one aspect of PETA's philosophy. Trek has shot a photon torpedo in to the culture and language, and fortified one battle against "progressive" animal thought. I always wondered when it would get to a point where someone addressed the "sentient being" issue and it has.
I heard someone on NPR last year use the phrase "they are sentient" in reference to animal protection philosophy. The person, can't remember who, had a similar view to PETA. He was addressing the popular sci-fi concept that calls people "sentient" but calls snails, dogs and chimps, "non-sentient." Everyone uses the word now as non-chalantly as Spock at his station, scanning a planet, addressing Captain Kirk, while staring into his view finder. Is that phrase not part of the nomenclature due in large part to Star Trek?
^Actually it is Spock who is using the wrong word. Animals are sentient what they they are not is sapient.
Sentience is consciousness: the ability to understand signals, interpret them, learn them, and use them.
Sapience is the ability to think abstractly about the world, to search for meaning instead of purpose.
Sentience is consciousness: the ability to understand signals, interpret them, learn them, and use them.
Sapience is the ability to think abstractly about the world, to search for meaning instead of purpose.
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Yeah, that was a mistake Star Trek made. Not as bad as the use only 10% of your brains myth, but still one that I carried as a misconception for quite awhile.
The best one was his line from TMP-- about V'Ger having the power of "one to the millionth power" starships or something. 
