Did Supergirl get punched out of her skin?

[Broccoli]

I absolutely hated Jon Bogdonove's art...and still do.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ That's kind of awesome though

 

[Trekker4747]

Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

Supergirl is wearing a skirt that comes down in a point in the center. Lois wearing a tie, well, in the early '90s, there was a brief period where that was fashionable for women. It didn't really last long.

Well, there's what the skirt is supposed to be, and then there's what it looks like. And the tie is the least bad part of Lois's depiction there.

Also I think this woman has a spinal injury:

Yikes! She has Liefeliosis!

 

[Broccoli]

Jon Bogdonove is to Rob Liefeld as being pin pricked is to being drawn and quartered.

 

[Trekker4747]

I can see that, the woman in that cap above looks like she has elephantiasis of the face.

 

[Broccoli]

?

 

[sojourner]

I think it was the Superman animated series (and later JLA) which sort of mixed the original concept with the look of the Linda Danvers version. They of course eventually brought back a post-crisis version of the original Kara (In Batman/Superman) who has become a staple of the post-crisis Superman mythos since, although with the relaunch I think her origin has been altered (Along with Supes himself). I think in Justice League Unlimited, the DCAU version of Kara also started wearing an outfit similar to her comics counterpart.

You've actually got that backwards. The white belly shirt version of the costume originated with the JLU cartoon and was introduced to the comic later on.

 

[MLJames]

Yes, but when Supergirl started showing up as a League member in JLU, she wasn't wearing the red, white and blue costume she originally used on TAS. She wore something very close to the Matrix Supergirl's costume, and (if memory serves), they actually commented on the costume change in one of the episodes.

 

[Myasishchev]

For a story that has mass appeal, The Death of Superman has tons of goofy, unexplained things from the 1990s continuity: Matrix Supergirl, the War Worlders, Jimmy Olsen dressed as a Turtle, Bloodwynd, Redhead Australian Luthor. I can't imagine what Theoretical Casual Buyer thought of it.

I was that buyer! The Death of Superman got me into comics in the first place when I was a kid. I had no idea what was going on, but I loved every minute of it. Of course, later on, I started to pick stuff up like why Lex Luther was generally liked by everybody and had red hair and a beard.

Hey, me too, sorta. The Death of Superman collection was--to the best of my memory--my first DC comic.

I liked it a lot.

They explain the Supergirl and Luthor things in the book, iirc (at the least, it was clear that Luthor was being viewed as Luthor's illegitimate son but legal heir). Bloodwynd was just kind of a weird mystery that had little impact (SPOILER: it's the Martian Manhunter.)

I think Doomsday's completely unexplained presence was what bothered me the most about it. They did eventually explain it, though, so be careful what you wish for, because that shit was ridiculous.

In any event, the big draw for Death of Superman was two titans punching each other till they both died. That wasn't too hard to get, and was very well-executed.

For what it's worth, I'll take the Matrix Supergirl over the Loeb/Turner/Benes/Churchill/Kelly abortion that came later. Kara Zor-El is a better concept, but I am convinced that is the worst run of comic books DC has ever published. I've never read Cry For Justice, Rise of Arsenal, or Countdown, but I honestly can't imagine them being more inept than the Batman/Superman arc and Supergirl Vol. 3. Heck, I might take the Matrix book over the current Supergirl series, but that jury's still out.

For fun, can anyone think of any comic book character more consistently given to utterly incompetent creatives than Kara Zor-El? Not even Cass Cain or X-family characters, I'd bet.

P.S.: This isn't directly related but Panic in the Sky: also fantastic. Best Brainiac story ever, with the worst rendition of Brainiac ever.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

At first glance, I thought that was Lex II in drag.

 

[Trekker4747]

I'm still fairly certain it is.

 

[The Dominion]

Those are some broad shoulders on, uh, Louis.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Yeah, I liked Bogdanove's Superman, too. As you say it had some of Borings look and touch of the Shuster Studio. I beleive Boring was a member of that studio, so maybe thats the same thing.

Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

Steve, are you sure that a Bogdanove panel?

I mean, yes, Lois has Bogdanovesque hair, but that's a Jurgens face on Supergirl.

 

[Silvercrest]

Good, I wasn't the only one thinking that.

 

[Broccoli]

Now that you mention it, it is a Dan Jurgen's panel. It's from Superman #77. Jurgens did layouts and Brett Breeding did finishes.

 

[Lindley]

Indeed, it's how someone might try to describe the state of Lost circa season 5. The point is simply that any mythos has plot points that sound fairly wacky when removed from their context.

Lost got so terrible, though.

Eh, it kind of collapsed in the final season and didn't live up to its potential, but I wouldn't go that far. A subject for another thread.

 

[sojourner]

Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

At first glance, I thought that was Lex II in drag.

SG has the worst case of bedhead I have ever seen and LL is being played by Luthor in drag.

If I didn't know better I would come to the conclusion that Lex drugged SG, slept with her, and is now using her for some plot to be revealed in the following panels.

 

[davejames]

Man, it's hard to believe those giant, wavy hairdos were ever considered attractive on women.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

At first glance, I thought that was Lex II in drag.

SG has the worst case of bedhead I have ever seen and LL is being played by Luthor in drag.

If I didn't know better I would come to the conclusion that Lex drugged SG, slept with her, and is now using her for some plot to be revealed in the following panels.

In a way, Lex was using her, and not just for the sex. She conferred on Lex some legitimacy as a "good guy" -- he was trying to show the world that he wasn't like his "father," and if one of Metropolis' own heroes could see him as a good guy, then maybe the would would see he wasn't the villain that his "father" was.

I'm trying to remember how and why Supergirl and Lex II parted ways, but I'm drawing a complete blank.

 

[Silvercrest]

It was in her miniseries from about a year later. Superman, the Kents, and one of Luthor's ex-wives all tried warning her that Luthor couldn't be trusted. At first she shut them all out. Eventually she wised up, used her shapeshifting powers to do some snooping, and discovered that Luthor was performing protomatter experiments with samples he'd taken from her. Dozens or hundreds of Supergirl duplicates. (Sheesh, talk about alternate costumes!)

After that, she declared all-out war on Luthor. "Hell hath no fury..."