^ Quite. I'm getting ready for tonight as we speak:
2011 MLB Season Discussion
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^ Does have a point though. We as Yankee fans kinda do feel entitled, and we shouldn't. We don't know what it's like to go as long without a championship as other teams have.
As for the teams that are still left in the '11 postseason, I'm hoping for the Cardinals.
As for the teams that are still left in the '11 postseason, I'm hoping for the Cardinals.
Out of curiosity, how many people here are actually Cardinals fans and not just disgruntled Braves and Mets(ish) fans?
^ I'm not a Cardinals fan as such but I lived in St. Louis for a few years and I feel closer to them than any other team in the postseason now. If I'd gotten into baseball back when I was in college (I went to Wash. U) as opposed to just a few years ago, I would be a Cards fan today.
No, he really doesn't What he is calling entitlement is simply loyalty to the team. Yankees fans are fiercely loyal to their team. That doesn't mean they feel as if they are entitled to winning the World Series.
I just hate the Phillies
I don't know who to root for in the Brewers/Dbacks thing. Although I'm leaning towards Brewers simply because they've never won a WS before and haven't even been in one since 1982.
I just hate the Phillies
Well, I figured that. I hate the Yankees, so it evens out.
Apples to oranges, though. Gibson was the Tigers' bench coach from 2003 - 2005 (well, he became the hitting coach during 2005), and he'd been the Diamondbacks' bench coach since 2007 before becoming the manager last year. It was a natural progression through the ranks. Ventura's only coaching experience is a few months of volunteer work at the high school level. You can't really compare the two.
And, honestly, Ron Roenicke should be the runaway favorite for NL Manager of the Year, especially after the Brewers' amazing August run. (And it hurts to say that, being a lifelong Cub fan now living in the heart of Wisconsin.)
Ventura will be remembered for 3 things in baseball - his 58 game collegiate hitting streak in 1987, the horrible ankle injury he suffered in 1997, and probably his most enduring image - getting his ass whipped at the hands of Nolan Ryan in 1993.
Eh, he did ALMOST as good of a job as Kirk Gibson.
Almost.
D-Backs 2010: 65-97
D-Backs 2011: 95-67
Brewers 2010: 77-85
Brewers 2011: 96-66
Gibson clearly captained the more impressive turnaround.
I knew who Ron Roenicke was!
Before there were Diamondbacks, I was a Dodgers fan.
So I knew of Roenicke from his stint with the Dodgers in the early 80's, and Gibson of course from his stint with the Dodgers in the late 80s, and now they meet as managers of teams in the playoffs.
I think that's cool.
Before there were Diamondbacks, I was a Dodgers fan.
So I knew of Roenicke from his stint with the Dodgers in the early 80's, and Gibson of course from his stint with the Dodgers in the late 80s, and now they meet as managers of teams in the playoffs.
I think that's cool.
EDIT: Unintentional Double Post. Sorry!
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I actually have a paired frame of this image along with a ball, both autographed by Nolan Ryan back in 1995 or so, when my Dad and I traveled to Dallas and attended a signing event during the trip.
Ventura's an awesome dude, but I detest Jerry Reinsdorf with the heat of a thousand blazing suns, so all I'll say is that I hope a repeat of 1993 happens at some point.
I was born in the mid-1980s, but for some reason grew up mostly with pop culture centered on the Golden Age of America (1930s – early 1950s). I grew up watching them play in the movies (e.g. The Pride of the Yankees) and in old highlight films, which I saw far more often than actual games.
The Giants were considered the hometown major league team where I lived, but they were about 450 miles away, and their games were almost never broadcast in town. (Why we identified with the Giants and the 49ers instead of the Seattle teams, which were 200 miles closer, I don't know.) Though I watched our local single-A minor league team play in our 1930s-era stadium when I was very little, a medical emergency forced us under the poverty line, and I didn't see a full baseball game again until the very late 90s (we also didn't have a TV at home). So, weirdly, Gehrig's and Ruth's Yankees essentially were the only team I saw playing growing up, even though I'm not 114.
I don't really understand why the outlook of Yankees fans irritates fans of other teams so much. What the Yankees play for and what other teams play for are different. The Yankees play to live up to their legacy (which requires winning); other teams play to win. Inevitably, this results in different attitudes about the World Series; for other teams, they represent the pinnacle of triumph, but for the Yankees, they are the only measure of adequacy. Different games, same rules. No one wants to be a fan of the Yankees team that couldn't live up to history.
I don't think we have any Cardinals fans on the board. Only disgruntled NL Easters.
A squirrel has appeared for the third start game during the series. At least the last two were in St. Louis, what's the odds that it traveled to Philly?
Hmmmm. This could get interesting. For the third time in a week, Ryan Roberts comes to the plate with the bases loaded. The last two times, he homered....
