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Steve Jobs Has Died

Fox had pretty heavy coverage of his passing. That's where I found out.

That's quite something about Twitter.

I would've never thought I'd be so sad about this...I haven't even "graduated" to a smartphone yet. But my very, very first computer was an old Apple IIc, and a lot of good memories were formed and a lot of things learned working and playing games on that thing.
 
Fox had pretty heavy coverage of his passing. That's where I found out.

That's quite something about Twitter.

I would've never thought I'd be so sad about this...I haven't even "graduated" to a smartphone yet. But my very, very first computer was an old Apple IIc, and a lot of good memories were formed and a lot of things learned working and playing games on that thing.

I've only ever owned Macs myself, all the way back to 1993, when I bought my first from Sears when they sold the Centris under the Performa name, again in 1995 with the Power Macintosh 7200, in 1997 with the Power Macintosh 8600. We're a 4-iPod family, and am about to pick up a Mac Mini as a Home Theater PC so I can put the Apple TV in the bedroom.

He really did achieve a lot in his life, not the least of which start a company at 20 as a college drop-out in his garage, grow it, get kicked out of his own company, go away, start another computer company (NEXT), return to his original company when they wanted to buy the OS his second company made, turn that company around over the next 14 years to where, for a brief moment in the summer of 2011, they were the 2nd most highly valued company (2nd only to an OIL company!).

As a lot of others have observed, he didn't invent a lot (in the beginning, it was Woz who was the bigger geek), but he found ways to make those inventions accessible to a lot of people who otherwise would have had no use for computing. Where Woz loved to tinker and play with the technology, it was Steve who kept pushing to have it get out of the user's way.

He really did make technology "for the rest of us", when the rest of us were the non-geeks, the muggles, so to speak. And he's always been able to surround himself with people who could design and create the ideas he had in his head, most lately Jonny Ive. Tim Cook replacing him wasn't a split-second decision. Tim came back with him when Apple bought NEXT, so he's been there all the past decade and a half, the two of them growing together.

It's amazing from a business standpoint when you consider that the majority of their money is made from product categories that didn't exist for them 4 years ago (the iPhone and iPad). They were not a phone company, but they found a way not only to survive in that cutthroat space, but to dominate it. With regard to the iPad, they reinvigorated a category that everyone else in the PC space (including Microsoft) had largely written off. They did smartphones RIGHT. They did tablet PCs right. They OWN music downloads and have for the past decade. They did App Stores right, their "walled garden" model running roughshod over their competitors' "wild west" models.

So, for Steve Jobs, a big, fat, motherfuckin' bucket of win!
 
Too soon? Naaahhhhhhh. :D

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(laughing groan)

In all seriousness--I actually asked the boys at Office Depot about the big deal Apple commercials make over, "Oh, our products don't freeze up, or get viruses!"

The boys explained that, in reality, Macs and PCs are equally as prone. PCs just suffer more from freezing and viruses for one reason and one reason alone:

PCs can do more things at the same time. That comes at a cost of it lagging (info overload) or tripping up.

It's not about which one, Apple or Microsoft, is "better". Macs are simpler to use--more "streamlined". PCs can do more in a given point in time.

But in theory...were a Mac to do all the things a PC could do at the same time...it'd be just as accident-prone.


And of course, there's a story today that the Westboro Baptists will be protesting at his funeral....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...test-steve-jobs-funeral-iphone-141530936.html

Man, I hate those guys.

:rolleyes:

They wouldn't know the Bible--let alone "Baptist" doctrine--if it walked up and smacked them all in the face.

Seriously--folks in my denomination (Evangelical Free) have taken to calling these frauds the "Phelps Cult".

I'd say that's more appropriate. ;)

I remember discussing the Cult with my pastor--he and I agree that they are not Christians. They have none of the love of Christ, and they don't understand the concept of forgiveness and redemption.
 
It seems to me that although I wouldn't enjoy this kind of humor about most people, he'd been preparing himself for so long, and probably those around him, that it's more fitting.

It reminds me of an online Irish wake. :)
 
(laughing groan)

In all seriousness--I actually asked the boys at Office Depot about the big deal Apple commercials make over, "Oh, our products don't freeze up, or get viruses!"

The boys explained that, in reality, Macs and PCs are equally as prone. PCs just suffer more from freezing and viruses for one reason and one reason alone:

PCs can do more things at the same time. That comes at a cost of it lagging (info overload) or tripping up.
I don't think that's accurate.

Part of it is that the MacOS is based on UNIX, which is generally better at handling errors and properly terminating malfunctioning processes than Windows has been. This results in fewer freezes and crashes.

As to prone-ness to viruses, Mac's are less likely to get them mostly because virus writers target the OS that is most prevalent and will likely result in the most spreading: and Windows is the the obvious target.

Back to the topic at hand...
 
Glad he proved the Dr's wrong in their prediction, and fought the good fight.
R.I.P. sir.
Condolences to His family friends , and all.
 
A corporate asshole who got rich off the work of others, flogging something that became more like a overblown fashion brand, but 56 is a relatively young age and condolences to his family and friends.
 
In all seriousness--I actually asked the boys at Office Depot about the big deal Apple commercials make over, "Oh, our products don't freeze up, or get viruses!"

The boys explained that, in reality, Macs and PCs are equally as prone. PCs just suffer more from freezing and viruses for one reason and one reason alone:

PCs can do more things at the same time. That comes at a cost of it lagging (info overload) or tripping up.

In all seriousness the boys at Office Depot have obviously never seen the number of active apps on my dock on a given day.

In more seriousness, the boys at Office Depot apparently also have no idea how computers work. The number of things a PC or a Mac can do at once when comparing equally specced machines should be about the same. One may be better at memory or thread management than the other, but I don't see that making a tremendous difference either way.
 

Too soon? Naaahhhhhhh. :D

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Nope, not too soon. Thanks for the smiles, guys. I think he would've liked these.
Yeah, I got a good chuckle out of em, and I do think he would appreciate them.

Generally speaking, I stick with Windows machines, though I do have an iPod that I've been using practically everyday for several years now. I did have a PowerBook and got some good use out of it; I ended up back with Windows pretty much exclusively due to the familiarity and the fact that there was nothing my Mac could do that my Windows machines couldn't. That's only for me personally, in terms of how I use my computers; I wouldn't claim that to be true for everyone. While I haven't been happy with every decision Apple has made, I will not deny the impact Steve Jobs has had on the industry as a whole, nor the fact that the nature of personal computers probably would not be the same in some key ways if it weren't for him.

Definitely went before his time. RIP.
 
Steve Jobs took a pair of obscure technologies from Xerox and knocked the computer world on it's ass.

Without him Ethernet and GUI would be nothing more than a footnote in a textbook.

Everything else his company did after that built on the concepts of "interconnected computers" and "easy to use interface."
 
(laughing groan)

In all seriousness--I actually asked the boys at Office Depot about the big deal Apple commercials make over, "Oh, our products don't freeze up, or get viruses!"

The boys explained that, in reality, Macs and PCs are equally as prone. PCs just suffer more from freezing and viruses for one reason and one reason alone:

PCs can do more things at the same time. That comes at a cost of it lagging (info overload) or tripping up.

It's not about which one, Apple or Microsoft, is "better". Macs are simpler to use--more "streamlined". PCs can do more in a given point in time.

But in theory...were a Mac to do all the things a PC could do at the same time...it'd be just as accident-prone.
They're a bunch of minimum wage-slaves trying to sell you stuff. They're not computer experts. I bet most of them are still in high school or early college.
 
(laughing groan)

In all seriousness--I actually asked the boys at Office Depot about the big deal Apple commercials make over, "Oh, our products don't freeze up, or get viruses!"

The boys explained that, in reality, Macs and PCs are equally as prone. PCs just suffer more from freezing and viruses for one reason and one reason alone:

PCs can do more things at the same time. That comes at a cost of it lagging (info overload) or tripping up.

It's not about which one, Apple or Microsoft, is "better". Macs are simpler to use--more "streamlined". PCs can do more in a given point in time.

But in theory...were a Mac to do all the things a PC could do at the same time...it'd be just as accident-prone.
They're a bunch of minimum wage-slaves trying to sell you stuff. They're not computer experts. I bet most of them are still in high school or early college.

Yeah, whoever told him that at Best Buy was pulling it out of their hindquarters.
 
Well, aren't you being a bastion of good cheer.

There's nothing cheery about a not paticularly old guy getting killed by cancer, especially pancreatic cancer (which also killed Patrick Swayze and Elisabeth Sladen when they were relatively young, and much more quickly) and I dislike seeing famous people dying when they're only in their fifties, sixties or even early seventies, since my parents are now pushing 60. Pancreatic cancer is as bad as it gets as far as cancer is concerned, and even with Jobs' almost unlimited, ill gotten resources this particularily vicious cancer caught up to him in the end (and his form of pancreatic cancer was supposedly the less unpleasant kind(!), buying him some time). I think Apple is slightly overhyped and Steve Jobs didn't become as successful as he did by being nice, but I don't wish death on many people.
 
They're a bunch of minimum wage-slaves trying to sell you stuff. They're not computer experts. I bet most of them are still in high school or early college.

Actually, the people who first told me about the Mac-PC difference were the computer tech experts and service guys...at college.
 
Well, aren't you being a bastion of good cheer.

There's nothing cheery about a not paticularly old guy getting killed by cancer, especially pancreatic cancer (which also killed Patrick Swayze and Elisabeth Sladen when they were relatively young, and much more quickly) and I dislike seeing famous people dying when they're only in their fifties, sixties or even early seventies, since my parents are now pushing 60. Pancreatic cancer is as bad as it gets as far as cancer is concerned, and even with Jobs' almost unlimited, ill gotten resources this particularily vicious cancer caught up to him in the end (and his form of pancreatic cancer was supposedly the less unpleasant kind(!), buying him some time). I think Apple is slightly overhyped and Steve Jobs didn't become as successful as he did by being nice, but I don't wish death on many people.

You completely missed the point. Recognizing that he suffered that way, you still had to make those unkind remarks in a thread where people were sharing their memories and yes, cheering themselves up by remembering his life as they see fit.
 
They're a bunch of minimum wage-slaves trying to sell you stuff. They're not computer experts. I bet most of them are still in high school or early college.

Actually, the people who first told me about the Mac-PC difference were the computer tech experts and service guys...at college.

Perhaps you misinterpreted what they said, then. The main reason Windows gets more malware is that it's more widely used, and thus a more reasonable target for those creating malware. System capability has little to do with it.

That said, as a programmer I personally think the UNIX kernel APIs are better thought-out than then Windows APIs. I wouldn't be surprised if there were security benefits as a result of that.
 
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