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Obscure movie that echoes the plot of 'One'

Destructor

Commodore
Commodore
Okay guys, this is a tough one. Back in university I took a 'Gender Studies' course in film and I saw a film which was, if memory serves, based on a New Zealand novel or short story that was written by a woman (this memory may be wrong, please bear that in mind). The plot of the film was that of a woman who is living in a house in the country by herself, and because of the isolation she slowly loses her mind.

The scene that sticks out very clearly in my mind is the first one that reveals her mind unraveling, which is that she is talking on the phone to a friend and she seems normal, but then the camera slowly tracks backwards to reveal that phone is not plugged in at all and that she is talking to herself.

After this scene, I remember that a man visits the house and acts in a threatening manner towards her, but the man is ultimately revealed to be a sort of hallucination she is having, an avatar of her fears of loneliness.

The reason I mention this is all is because when I first saw the episode 'One', in which Seven slowly loses her mind due to shipboard isolation and encounters an aggressive man who is a symbol of her fear of lonliness, it immediately put me in mind of this film and I wondered if it was perhaps partially inspired by it. So when I rewatched 'One' with my gf the other day I mentioned this parallel, but sheepishly couldn't recall the title of the film I was referring to!

So I really need your help, peeps. Has anyone seen or heard of this film? Are the parallels to One coincidental or intentional? I know it's a tall order but if you could help me out it would really put my mind to rest.

(while we're out it, I once saw a horror film about a sort of zombie that stalked the night while whispering: "The Daaarknesss." It would not kill blind people and it ultimately exploded. It scared the bejesus out of me when I was young but I've no idea what it was called so if this rings a bell for you please help me out it's been bugging me for YEARS)
 
Okay guys, this is a tough one. Back in university I took a 'Gender Studies' course in film and I saw a film which was, if memory serves, based on a New Zealand novel or short story that was written by a woman (this memory may be wrong, please bear that in mind). The plot of the film was that of a woman who is living in a house in the country by herself, and because of the isolation she slowly loses her mind.

The scene that sticks out very clearly in my mind is the first one that reveals her mind unraveling, which is that she is talking on the phone to a friend and she seems normal, but then the camera slowly tracks backwards to reveal that phone is not plugged in at all and that she is talking to herself.

After this scene, I remember that a man visits the house and acts in a threatening manner towards her, but the man is ultimately revealed to be a sort of hallucination she is having, an avatar of her fears of loneliness.

The reason I mention this is all is because when I first saw the episode 'One', in which Seven slowly loses her mind due to shipboard isolation and encounters an aggressive man who is a symbol of her fear of lonliness, it immediately put me in mind of this film and I wondered if it was perhaps partially inspired by it. So when I rewatched 'One' with my gf the other day I mentioned this parallel, but sheepishly couldn't recall the title of the film I was referring to!

So I really need your help, peeps. Has anyone seen or heard of this film? Are the parallels to One coincidental or intentional? I know it's a tall order but if you could help me out it would really put my mind to rest.

(while we're out it, I once saw a horror film about a sort of zombie that stalked the night while whispering: "The Daaarknesss." It would not kill blind people and it ultimately exploded. It scared the bejesus out of me when I was young but I've no idea what it was called so if this rings a bell for you please help me out it's been bugging me for YEARS)

Hey Destructor, Sounds like you watch too many horror movies mate! :) I'm sure Braga et al were not niave or desperate enough to use other people's productions. There's a difference between quoting something or alluding to it and stealing a full plotline!

Here's one you can watch instead.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071360/
"The Conversation".

Where somebody THINKS they know what is going on but doesn't then wastes a whole lot of their time chasing after their own paranoid fantasies, all the time trying to work out what reality is.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071360/synopsis

BTW, not so long back I saw an episode of "NCIS" (I think it was) where the team were watching a woman they thought was losing her mind because she was yelling at an empty seat in a diner. Turned out she was actually speaking into a microphone planted on the other side of the booth and was a brilliant scientist who was fighting for her research and yelling at the people trying to supress it.

These days with all kinds of surveillance equipment and eavesdropping going on, you can never tell who is doing what any longer; even if you're using illegal eavesdropping equipment yourself to check up on others who are none of your business.

And maybe the woman in your movie was improvising? It's a standard acting technique and one actors spend years practising and working to perfect. Maybe your actress was just incredibly good and therefore convincing! :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvising

You see, you have to think like a writer looking for the twists and turns. Somebody like Brannon Braga who is writing material based in the future, is going to automatically assume new technologies are involved.

As you can see, Francis Ford Coppola was way ahead of you here and also way ahead of *Voyager's* writers at the time.

I think we can safely assume *Voyager's* technologies and use of them would have been far more advanced than anything which can be bought on the Internet these days.

In fact, in "One", Seven actually did save the crew, using some of those advanced technologies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)

I don't think there was ever any actual suggestion she was losing her mind. Simply reacting to the situation and taking the necessary measures to correct what was going wrong.


Sorry to disappoint you here but I think you've gone off on completely the wrong tangent. :techman:



Chuckling :rommie:
 
I'm not sure I follow you, Chuckling- Seven did experience hallucinations in 'One'. This is explicit in the text- the Doctor points it out in dialogue, but even if he hadn't, are we to believe that there was a borg cube interior INSIDE Voyager's turbolift, or that the guy who came to the ship just turned into a borg drone? It was clear that Seven was losing her mind because she could not handle isolation- not just suggested, but definitively stated.

Loads of TV shows (Star Trek, particularly!) draw inspiration from movies. 'Starship Mine' is famously described as 'Die Hard on the Enterprise' because it is, in fact, 'Die Hard on the Enterprise'. I wasn't accusing Voyager of 'ripping off' an existing movie, but the idea of someone being all alone and then losing their grip on sanity is a very common theme in all sorts of literature (especially feminist lit, because men are supposed to be able to handle isolation):

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoMadFromTheIsolation
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn

None of this helps me identify that movie, however- it's driving me crazy! Argh!
 
I'm not sure I follow you, Chuckling- Seven did experience hallucinations in 'One'. This is explicit in the text- the Doctor points it out in dialogue, but even if he hadn't, are we to believe that there was a borg cube interior INSIDE Voyager's turbolift, or that the guy who came to the ship just turned into a borg drone? It was clear that Seven was losing her mind because she could not handle isolation- not just suggested, but definitively stated.

Loads of TV shows (Star Trek, particularly!) draw inspiration from movies. 'Starship Mine' is famously described as 'Die Hard on the Enterprise' because it is, in fact, 'Die Hard on the Enterprise'. I wasn't accusing Voyager of 'ripping off' an existing movie, but the idea of someone being all alone and then losing their grip on sanity is a very common theme in all sorts of literature (especially feminist lit, because men are supposed to be able to handle isolation):

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoMadFromTheIsolation
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn

None of this helps me identify that movie, however- it's driving me crazy! Argh!


Work through from Wikipedia and IMDB.

Define "going mad" or "losing your mind". How would isolation cause mental illness?

Hallucinations are a whole other thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination

"...A hallucination, in broadest sense of the word, is a perception in the absence of a stimulus. In a stricter sense, hallucinations are defined as perceptions in a conscious and awake state in the absence of external stimuli which have qualities of real perception, in that they are vivid, substantial, and located in external objective space...."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinations_in_the_sane

"
A hallucination may occur in a person in a state of good mental and physical health, even in the apparent absence of a transient trigger factor such as fatigue, intoxication or sensory deprivation.
It is not widely recognized that hallucinatory experiences are not merely the prerogative of those suffering from mental illness, or normal people in abnormal states, but that they occur spontaneously in a significant proportion of the normal population, when in good health and not undergoing particular stress or other abnormal circumstance...."




In fact, the story is far more impressive if you realize that Seven was sane but under duress.

How would what Seven experienced suggest she was "losing her sanity"? And what does that mean anyway?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanity


Back to the movie you were mentioning. Was it something to do with Janet Frame?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Frame

Could have been "An Angel At My Table" by the wonderful Jane Campion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Angel_at_My_Table



Chuckling :lol:
 
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