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Terra Nova 1x01&02 - Genesis Parts 1&2 (Grade/Discuss) SPOILERS

Grade Genesis Parts 1 and 2

  • Excellent! - Dino-riffic!

    Votes: 11 8.5%
  • Above Average - Hey, this is pretty good!

    Votes: 54 41.9%
  • Average - Well it's an ok start, will see what happens.

    Votes: 42 32.6%
  • Below Average - Braga..shakes head and moves on..

    Votes: 16 12.4%
  • Poor - Dino-Crap

    Votes: 6 4.7%

  • Total voters
    129
Im a big Who fan, and I do agree, there is a lot of episodic stuff, but the older who was almost all serial, 5 to 6 eps per, and the new season of Who has been one long story arc.
 
Im a big Who fan, and I do agree, there is a lot of episodic stuff, but the older who was almost all serial, 5 to 6 eps per, and the new season of Who has been one long story arc.
I didn't watch a lot of them but I think the old Doctor Who were more like mini-series than anything. I think most serialized Sci-fi series should be made into mini-series instead. I'm sure The Event or Flashforward would have been pretty good mini-series as would Terra Nova. It would probably also improve the pacing too.
 
Fortunately, there's Stephen Lang. Just like in Avatar, he's easily the best thing in this show and makes it worth watching. The guy is pure awesome, tough and badass. He got all the best dialogue and scenes and even his backstory is kind of interesting, particularly with him surviving 118 days in the jungle alone when he first arrived.

1) I actually think the 118 days was another groups of guys not Taylor

2) The fact that he faced down a giant man eating dinosaur with just an assult rifle totally makes up for that, becuase quiet frankly that was badass.
 
I liked it. It wasn't perfect and I noticed a number of times where you would hear the actors dialogue and it wouldn't match up with their mouth. But I thought the production values and the FX were really good and Stephen Lang plays another awesome badass. I really do like the premise too and the future stuff looked cool.

Worst part...the son was an annoying brat. Pretty much for the sake of being an annoying brat. Josh has the chance to be as annoying at Tyler. Because that storyline worked SOOOOOO well for V. Here's hoping the brat suffers a horrible death. Very slow and very painful.

I'll probably keep watching.
 
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It was Ok. I liked SGU better, but I'll keep watching for now.
Alternate timeline, huh? And I wonder how the people of the future in this timeline are liking the re-tooling of their past by these folks?
Since, it's a totally new alternate timeline they created, like a new branch on a tree, those people don't exist yet.

In another matter, it's not related to what you said, *maybe* they will realize that they are not on some alternate timeline or not even on earth. There's a slight possibility of a mystery behind it (ie the disappearance of the probe in the future). I'm not sure we should take everything at face value for now. This show can't all be about surviving with dinosaurs? Can it? There must be some mystery and plot twists coming up? At the moment, only the numbers written on the rock by the lake (and possibly the disappearance of the probes) point to that.
 
Fortunately, there's Stephen Lang. Just like in Avatar, he's easily the best thing in this show and makes it worth watching. The guy is pure awesome, tough and badass. He got all the best dialogue and scenes and even his backstory is kind of interesting, particularly with him surviving 118 days in the jungle alone when he first arrived.

1) I actually think the 118 days was another groups of guys not Taylor

2) The fact that he faced down a giant man eating dinosaur with just an assult rifle totally makes up for that, becuase quiet frankly that was badass.

No, that was Lang's character - he said specifically that he was the first one through, spending 118 days alone.

It would certainly be a neat flashback episode.
 
It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it. Granted, I may just be desperate for some sci-fi. :)

Apparently Fox has this on at 8, followed by House at 9. That seems strange to me---House should obviously be the lead-in. If it were the other way around, this show would have a better chance of surviving.

Anyway I liked the first 15-20 minutes, I'm surprised to see all the hate for post-apocalyptic police states. They're so much fun!

In all honesty, this show might be better without the dinosaurs. Life on a new world, the colony, the Sixers, and the symbols were more interesting to me than the dinosaurs. But we'll see.

And what is this talk about alien markings? They were talking about his son drawing them, I thought.
 
Well the kids thought the markings looked "ancient", but the sixers state at the end of the episode that Lang's missing son is behind the markings.
 
Well the kids thought the markings looked "ancient", but the sixers state at the end of the episode that Lang's missing son is behind the markings.

Supposedly that's a change due to the revamped/expanded pilot (or so I read on another board). The version shown at Comic-Con ended after the Sixers got inside the camp and had their standoff with Lang. I don't know if that means the writers/producers changed their minds about the markings, or if they only pushed the explanation up sooner. (I'm inclined to think the former, since the first time wee see the symbols, they look etched into the rock with great precision and appear to be glowing gold. The secodn time, they're clrearly scratches scrawled into the surface.)
 
I thought it was awful. Clichés at every turn, forgettable characters, and action scenes that look like they're fresh out of a Syfy original movie. I expected so much more from this. With The Walking Dead, Boardwalk Empire, House, Fringe, Dexter etc. on the way back, I'm not sure I'll even bother with this again.
 
Since, it's a totally new alternate timeline they created
Important point: We don't know if their time travel gizmo created anything. It may have opened a portal to an already existing alternate universe.

This is the same damn argument we've had about Trek XI. I can't believe we have to go thru it again! :rommie:

But unlike Trek XI, whether this is a branched universe or an existing one is an important plot point, because an existing one could have a past very different from our Earth.
*maybe* they will realize that they are not on some alternate timeline or not even on earth.
The moon wasn't a big giveaway? Not to mention that they could check the location of the stars and extrapolate where they're supposed to be, 85M years ago. It's easy to verify that they are on some alternate Earth.

I wonder how the people of the future in this timeline are liking the re-tooling of their past by these folks?
If the time travel created the new timeline, they should be grateful they exist at all! :p

If the time travel simply went to an existing timeline, they still can't complain because the future doesn't exist. Yet.

Unless everything is ruled by predestination. In which case, nobody can change anything anyway.

1) I actually think the 118 days was another groups of guys not Taylor
Taylor definitely said he survived on his own for 118 days because the rest of his team didn't appear thru the stargate right after him. Which sounded reaaaaly fishy to me. I wonder if any of those guys are around to corroborate that story or if they've all conveniently become dino-chow?

I'm surprised to see all the hate for post-apocalyptic police states. They're so much fun!
I was kinda hoping they'd forget all about the dinosaurs and stay where they were! :D

The action/fight scenes did seem like a "SyFy Original."


One reason I voted "above avg" is that I compared them to the monster mash generated by Syfy, and on those terms its far above avg of what we see on TV.

Oh yeah, much less painful to look at than skiffy.
 
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I wonder how the people of the future in this timeline are liking the re-tooling of their past by these folks?

You could argue that their timeline is based on this having happened. A linear timeline, in fact the presence of these people probably would have a very dramatic effect on the future of evolution and the development of life on this version of Earth.
 
Those people you're talking about don't exist yet! There is no future they are "supposed" to have. The future is whatever they get. And since their past includes trespassers from another Earth, that's the only past they're ever going to have.

...and I just realized that there's a possibility of a Twilight Zone twist here. The post-apocalyptic Earth wasn't our Earth; the dino-Earth is.

:rommie:
 
So did anybody here go into this thing NOT looking for something new to hate?


Trek BBS: Come for the science fiction, stay for the endless narcissism.

V started out great, then they had to turn it into a weekly series. And don't even get me started on that re-imagined crap.

Oh great, I guess we can just forget about Hera; Turns out Stephen Lang is Mitochondrial Eve.


Come on man, where's the positivity?
 
So did anybody here go into this thing NOT looking for something new to hate?


Trek BBS: Come for the science fiction, stay for the endless narcissism.

V started out great, then they had to turn it into a weekly series. And don't even get me started on that re-imagined crap.

Oh great, I guess we can just forget about Hera; Turns out Stephen Lang is Mitochondrial Eve.


Come on man, where's the positivity?
It may seem like complete and utter train wreck, but at least it has dinosaurs.

Positive enough?
 
Half a centimeter a year is one kilometer per 200 000 yrs. Eighty five million yrs divided by 200 000 kilometer/yr is 2400 km. Which is supposed to produce that enormous object?

Worth checking out further. The psychotic Braga hate on this bbs has hopelessly confused discussion.
 
Since this is a different timeline, it's also a different Earth, and there's no reason to believe this Earth's past is exactly parallel to our own.

And everyone should keep in mind that a different timestream means that the past, as well as the future, is not necessarily identical to Earth's.

The impression I got was that the difference between timestreams was only very slight. This is still the same basic Earth, but the time fracture caused a rupture of some kind that shifted things in a slightly different direction.

Important point: We don't know if their time travel gizmo created anything. It may have opened a portal to an already existing alternate universe.

This is the same damn argument we've had about Trek XI. I can't believe we have to go thru it again! :rommie:

But unlike Trek XI, whether this is a branched universe or an existing one is an important plot point, because an existing one could have a past very different from our Earth.
The impression I got was that this is the same past, but a new future will be branched off because of their presence. I thought the whole idea of the show was that these people went to the dinosaur age. I don't think it's a completely seperate timeline, unless the producers want to write it as one at some point.

Apparently Fox has this on at 8, followed by House at 9. That seems strange to me---House should obviously be the lead-in.
Maybe they think Terra Nova will do better in the "family hour" slot.

Half a centimeter a year is one kilometer per 200 000 yrs. Eighty five million yrs divided by 200 000 kilometer/yr is 2400 km. Which is supposed to produce that enormous object?
Was it 1 centimeter or half a centimeter? That would mean either 850 km or 425 km, not 2400. Either way, that doesn't seem like enough for them to notice a difference in the moon's size.
 
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