That hasn't always stopped them in the past.
Yeah, you only have to be standing unfortunately close to "sense" something like that
Deanna Troi on DS9?
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Yeah, you only have to be standing unfortunately close to "sense" something like that
I don't think Deanna would have worked in an ongoing role on DS9, maybe a few guest starring appearances but nothing permanent. Perhaps just the few months while waiting for the Enterprise-E to finish construction. I didn't mind the Worf/Deanna relationship, it wasn't really out of no where as they did two or three episodes before All Good Things where they began hinting that Deanna and Worf were growing closer with each other. What bugged me was that there was no mention of their break-up...it's like their relationship never happened. I realize there maybe wasn't enough screen time to mention anything but still it would have been nice to address...I was surprised in Insurrection to have Deanna and Will start things back up suddenly, even if they were influenced by the Bak'u planet. I also realize by this time that Worf had long since moved on and married Jadiza and then lost her to Dukat but you get my point.
Yes, in fact I do think it's incomprehensibly unrealistic.
The difference between Riker/Troi and a real life situation such as you cite is that Riker and Troi don't "bump into each other" every few years. They served on the same damn starship together for years. Sure, there are such things as on-again, off-again romances, but not with someone you see everyday. When you see somebody every day, you work it out. You have to.
You might have some tender memories, you might give in and have sex in a weak moment, and you might even convert a friendship back into a romance under the right circumstances, but out here in the real world, he or she is not your One True Love one day/episode, and then in the next day/episode, somebody else is, and then in the day/episode that follows, something else happens. Which is precisely how Trek treated the Riker/Troi thing. When it fit in with the plot of the week, it was used; when it was an inconvenience, it was ignored. And that isn't right -- not in a show that respects its characters.
(And in the end, that's what they did with Troi/Worf, too, might I add.)
That is not how humans behave, at least none of the ones I've ever known. It is, all too often, how TV characters behave, but that's not quite the same thing.
Because of course Star Trek is far from being the only show guilty of this sort of thing. (Need I say more than "Ross and Rachel"?) There are lots of other examples out there, of course, and they all annoy me a lot.
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She had no place on DS9. I actually prefer Worf-Troi over Riker-Troi but Worf and Jadzia was great. I wouldn't want it any other way.
I think Geordi would have been a nice addition but that would take away from O'Brien
I think Geordi would have been a nice addition but that would take away from O'Brien
In the USA we have a commercial called "Messin' with Sasquatch"
Where guys out in the wild are playing tricks on Bigfoot and then getting their arses kicked by the big guy
Been funny to have a monthly, messin w/Troi B-plot.
I kind of like how it played out. Worf and Jadzia seemed made for each other. Had similar temperaments. The Worf and Troi relationship seemed creepy to me for some reason. Maybe because I always though Troi and Riker belonged together. Or that Worf and Troi had more of a family vibe with one another.
DS9 meets South Park.
A constant treat of....
Miles: "Oh my god, they killed Trio!"
Bashir: "YOU BASTARDS!"
I'm already doing a TNG novel, but I've been thinking about doing a DS9 novel about Picard sending Troi and Geordi to Deep Space Nine to work on an experiment or something... like how ENT did with "These Are The Voyages..." but in this case, Geordi and Troi wouldn't be walking through a simulation of the DS9 crew and ship. I'd place it during Season 2 or something like that, but the only problem is that I never really paid attention to DS9 so I don't really know the characters that well enough to write about DS9.
As much as I didn't like DS9 anyway and being the Troi-sucker that I am, I would've loved for Marina Sirtis to wear her blue uniform and reprise her Troi role for an episode or two of DS9.
And ew, that ship even looks ugly! Troi can crash that ship any day!
As much as I didn't like DS9 anyway and being the Troi-sucker that I am, I would've loved for Marina Sirtis to wear her blue uniform and reprise her Troi role for an episode or two of DS9.
And ew, that ship even looks ugly! Troi can crash that ship any day!
Bird forbid!
Frankly, Ezri is a far better counselor than Troi. Bless her heart, Deanna had to really strain herself to be an adequate counselor without her empathic abilities.
And Ezri's methods are a lot more down to earth. Deanna's methods were always based on the assumption that she could "sense" the truth right away, assuming the patient didn't tell her right away. Ezri tends to use a kind of manipulation--see her final attempt on Garak in "Afterimage". (The first two times in the ep, she's using Deanna's method--and demonstrates why it's not the most effective means, if you don't have a means of "sensing" the truth anyway.)
But anyway--Troi being the counselor for DS9 would have frankly dumbed down all the "counseling" sequences in S7....
You really need to stop putting these ideas online, unless you're over in FanFic. The pro authors "already doing a TNG novel" don't discuss them until contracts are signed, and are not supposed to expose themselves to fans throwing up potential storylines for ST novels.
I can see her saying "I sense he's hiding something" about Weyoun every episode, and then being stared at by everyone else.
Indeed. I lost a lot of respect for Sirtis after her constant "Deep Sleep Nine" jokes. Hardly franchise-support is it?
Troi would've added nothing to DS9.
But I have to say, I quite liked the concept of Worf and Troi (and I did think it grew out naturally from a lot of their interactions during season 5 over Alexander etc) but I thought it was poorly handled.
Troi was pretty lucky given that everyone who gets involved with Worf ends up dead.
Perhaps she's jealous, as Counselor Ezri had four regulars pining for her affections (Jake, Quark, Worf, and Julian), compared to Counselor Deanna's...two.
One of the reasons I love DS9 is because they created awesome female characters. Troi would completely hinder that, but it would be neat to see Kira make her cry.
Troi was a weak character played by an even weaker actress - no thanks.
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