David Foster Preparing to Pitch New ‘Star Trek’ Series

[Therin of Andor]

I don't think the movie attracted any new fans. Lets be honest here. Just because people went to see it does not mean that they suddenly became fans.

I've met plenty of them. And CBS reported that sales of all ST boxed DVD sets - not just TOS - were extremely good in the year or so after the movie came out. Seemingly, lots of new people went hunting for what they'd missed after seeing JJ's movie as their introduction to ST.

Rather like what happened to me after discovering TMP in December 1979.

If the fans hadn't been harassing Paramount on a constant basis, we wouldn't have even gotten TAS...

I dunno. Lots of 60s TV shows became animated series in those days: "Batman", "Happy Days", "The Brady Kids", "Lassie", "Tarzan", "Gilligan's Island", "Gilligan's Planet"...

Filmation approached Paramount and NBC, not vice versa.

 

[xortex]

I don't think the movie attracted any new fans. Lets be honest here. Just because people went to see it does not mean that they suddenly became fans.

I've met plenty of them. And CBS reported that sales of all ST boxed DVD sets - not just TOS - were extremely good in the year or so after the movie came out. Seemingly, lots of new people went hunting for what they'd missed after seeing JJ's movie as their introduction to ST.

Rather like what happened to me after discovering TMP in December 1979.

If the fans hadn't been harassing Paramount on a constant basis, we wouldn't have even gotten TAS...

I dunno. Lots of 60s TV shows became animated series in those days: "Batman", "Happy Days", "The Brady Kids", "Lassie", "Tarzan", "Gilligan's Island", "Gilligan's Planet"...

Filmation approached Paramount and NBC, not vice versa.

Yea, they realized how much better the movies were than the new one. Things can get much worse so hold on to the little that you have or they'll take that away too.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

What the frack do kids in Asia have to do with this?

There's a little kid in China that controls my every move. I'm like an animatronic.

That explains a lot, actually.

 

[Captain Robert April]

^ Ya beat me to it...

 

[Temis the Vorta]

FINALLY! I'm usually five posts too late with the witticisms.

 

[xortex]

The tea in China is six dollars a pound!

 

[Captaindemotion]

FINALLY! I'm usually five posts too late with the witticisms.

Only on your better days.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I make it up through volume.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ Monkeys, typewriters, complete works of Shakespeare...

 

[Temis the Vorta]

That's the spirit! Keep it up and you might say something witty yourself someday.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ So they tell me, but it's yet to happen.

 

[OverJoyJackson]

I'm only 18 years old so I can't speak to what happened with the old movies. But I know this new movie attracted new fans because when I went to see XI there were sexy teenage girls seeing it too. I know they probably went because Chris Pine is popular with girls, but who cares, at least they were babes. The nerdy Trek fans like me had no idea how to act around them, girls, so it was kind of like a us vs them kind of thing going on.

I do remember seeing Nemesis with my mom and dad and the only people in that theater were people who looked like the guy who owns the comic book store on the Simpsons. Sure, people like that might know more about what happened on what stardate and things like that but who cares. Unless nerdy Trek fans like us can hook up with people of the opposite sex and start pushing out new generations of fans, trek will die a slow death. Kind of like Charlie Sheen but more prolonged.

 

[Dukhat]

I'm only 18 years old so I can't speak to what happened with the old movies. But I know this new movie attracted new fans because when I went to see XI there were sexy teenage girls seeing it too. I know they probably went because Chris Pine is popular with girls, but who cares, at least they were babes. The nerdy Trek fans like me had no idea how to act around them, girls, so it was kind of like a us vs them kind of thing going on.

I do remember seeing Nemesis with my mom and dad and the only people in that theater were people who looked like the guy who owns the comic book store on the Simpsons. Sure, people like that might know more about what happened on what stardate and things like that but who cares. Unless nerdy Trek fans like us can hook up with people of the opposite sex and start pushing out new generations of fans, trek will die a slow death. Kind of like Charlie Sheen but more prolonged.

This has to be one of the best post responses I've ever read about Star Trek '09. And I'm being completely serious.

Welcome to the Trek BBS, OverJoyJackson. May your stay be a long one.

And P.S.: If it makes you feel better, remember that nerds like us always win in the end.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'm only 18 years old ...

No.

This has to be one of the best post responses I've ever read about Star Trek '09. And I'm being completely serious.

Welcome to the Trek BBS, OverJoyJackson. May your stay be a long one.

Hmm...

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

It's not "too early." I remember how people were squawking about how the franchise needed to be "rested" after the ENT debacle, right up till Abrams' movie was announced. I guess JJ didn't realize that Star Trek was suffering from franchise fatigue and he better not make a movie because it's sure to flop due to that terrible fatigue problem.

The whole "franchise fatigue" thing is just a way to avoid the fact that what killed ST was shitty writing.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Nope.

The writing of Abrams's movie was good, certainly for a Star Trek movie. But that alone is not what revived Trek.

The willingness and authority to throw out absolutely anything they didn't like or think worked about Star Trek, combined with the vision and talents to know what to put in instead to make a really broadly appealing movie, is what brought it back from the brink.

 

[xortex]

18 year old girls are the ultimate power and authority in this universe. It's time we realize that and start building another universe.

 

[DrCorby]

The whole "franchise fatigue" thing is just a way to avoid the fact that what killed ST was shitty writing.

Nope.

So, what DID kill Star Trek then, in your estimation? (Assuming, for the sake of arguement, that it was dead.)

 

[Hartzilla2007]

18 year old girls are the ultimate power and authority in this universe. It's time we realize that and start building another universe.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ck[/yt]

 

[Captain Robert April]

The whole "franchise fatigue" thing is just a way to avoid the fact that what killed ST was shitty writing.

And that's the bottom line, 'cause STONE COLD SAID SO!!