What doesn't make sense is when they take something that is real science and they mess it up. This has happened often throughout Star Trek, just probably not as much in one outing.
What doesn't make sense is when they take something that is real science and they mess it up. This has happened often throughout Star Trek, just probably not as much in one outing.
I'm sorry I don't remember this movie being filled with a lot of "real science" moments, but I may not have as discerning an eye as you.
Care to highlight?
Well, one of the most obvious would be the supernova thing. We know what a supernova is and does, and what they say the supernova is and does isn't consistent with that.
If you're really interested, there was an interesting article written on both the good and bad science of the movie: http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/09/bad-astronomys-review-of-the-science-star-trek/
What doesn't make sense is when they take something that is real science and they mess it up. This has happened often throughout Star Trek, just probably not as much in one outing.
I'm sorry I don't remember this movie being filled with a lot of "real science" moments, but I may not have as discerning an eye as you.
Care to highlight?
Well, one of the most obvious would be the supernova thing. We know what a supernova is and does, and what they say the supernova is and does isn't consistent with that.
If you're really interested, there was an interesting article written on both the good and bad science of the movie: http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/09/bad-astronomys-review-of-the-science-star-trek/
the link said:"Or maybe he was just whining for emphasis. He is McCoy, after all."
Well, there's plenty of ways to interpret the supernova line. It bothered me for about five minutes and then I decided that it was just a plot convenience and whatever.
The article was interesting, but honestly unless you're a physicist most of that stuff isn't going to register, so I don't see a problem here for the majority of the film-going public and I don't think it's a poor show by Trek standards.
Well, there's plenty of ways to interpret the supernova line. It bothered me for about five minutes and then I decided that it was just a plot convenience and whatever.
The article was interesting, but honestly unless you're a physicist most of that stuff isn't going to register, so I don't see a problem here for the majority of the film-going public and I don't think it's a poor show by Trek standards.
I never really said it was that much of a problem, and not really at all for a general audience. Also, I don't think it's really indicative of the quality of the movie. It really only reflects on how much thought the writers/producers put into it.
It really only reflects on how much thought the writers/producers put into it.
It really only reflects on how much thought the writers/producers put into it.
Are you implying not a lot of thought went into it? I mean I don't think making physicists happy or realism would be top of the list when making a Star Trek or most other sci-fi/fantasy films; that doesn't mean they didn't put a lot of thought into the story, though.
I'm sorry I don't remember this movie being filled with a lot of "real science" moments...
It really only reflects on how much thought the writers/producers put into it.
Are you implying not a lot of thought went into it? I mean I don't think making physicists happy or realism would be top of the list when making a Star Trek or most other sci-fi/fantasy films; that doesn't mean they didn't put a lot of thought into the story, though.
I'm sorry I don't remember this movie being filled with a lot of "real science" moments, but I may not have as discerning an eye as you.
Care to highlight?
Well, one of the most obvious would be the supernova thing. We know what a supernova is and does, and what they say the supernova is and does isn't consistent with that.
If you're really interested, there was an interesting article written on both the good and bad science of the movie: http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/09/bad-astronomys-review-of-the-science-star-trek/
the link said:"Or maybe he was just whining for emphasis. He is McCoy, after all."
Sometimes this answer is enough for me, depending on context. And it need not be McCoy, either. Simply insert the name of any other Trek character (Worf, Sisko, Paris, Hoshi, etc) and it works, because hey, hyperbole has its casual uses, too.
There are two camps. You may choose only one:
A) I enjoyed the [movie / episode / story], so the [plot hole / inconsistency / bad science] didn't really bother me that much.
...or...
B) I did not enjoy the [movie / episode / story], so the [plot hole / inconsistency / bad science] ruined the entire movie for me.
Camp B thinks it was the [plot hole / inconsistency / bad science] that ruined the [movie / episode / story], but that's not the real reason. The real reason is that the [movie / episode / story] failed to engage the individual viewer to the point where their suspension of disbelief rationalized away any potential 'flaws.'
Once you are in a camp, your decision has been made, and you will not be swayed. That is because the [plot hole / inconsistency / bad science] is not really the problem, so no amount of discussing the [plot hole / inconsistency / bad science] will ever make any difference.
You either enjoyed the [movie / episode / story] or you didn't. The rest follows naturally.
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It really only reflects on how much thought the writers/producers put into it.
Are you implying not a lot of thought went into it? I mean I don't think making physicists happy or realism would be top of the list when making a Star Trek or most other sci-fi/fantasy films; that doesn't mean they didn't put a lot of thought into the story, though.
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