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Breaking Bad - Season 4

Refresh my memory. Was there a scene last season where Gus was in Gail's apartment, making tea? Or are they alluding to the very beginning scene in Box Cutter? That was in the apartment right?
 
Loved the episode. Especially Aaron Paul and Hank.

What I really liked was that moment when Hank brings up Gus, and then the good old fashioned cliche comes up, his superiors don't believe him. And then BLAMMO, Hank has got some evidence. Great moment.

Refresh my memory. Was there a scene last season where Gus was in Gail's apartment, making tea? Or are they alluding to the very beginning scene in Box Cutter? That was in the apartment right?

The Box cutter scene was in the lab.
 
Well, we don't know how it's really working til we see the end.

It is interesting that Hank's "evidence" about Fring was accepted by the DEA guys. Fring could have handled the paper bag in the restaurant Boetticher and another man were meeting at, then carried the note about the stock number home. Fring has a plausible excuse for the fingerprints being "in the apartment." And the DEA guys should have realized it.
 
Great episode. Walt messing around with the car in the beginning, followed by his chat with Skyler at the car wash made me believe that this was going to lead to another argument between them, but the episode went in a whole other more interesting direction. The scene with Jesse at NA was brilliant, great acting there by Aaron Paul. Who would have thought at the beginning of this thing that Walt would be the one to take murder in his stride while Jesse would be the one to struggle with it?

It is interesting that Hank's "evidence" about Fring was accepted by the DEA guys. Fring could have handled the paper bag in the restaurant Boetticher and another man were meeting at, then carried the note about the stock number home. Fring has a plausible excuse for the fingerprints being "in the apartment." And the DEA guys should have realized it.
But the fingerprints Gus left at Gale's apartment weren't on the napkin, they were on some red piece of equipment. Either Gus was at the apartment or Gale brought whatever that was to a fried chicken restaurant and Gus handled it. Either way, Gus has some explaining to do.

Edit: I just read online that the red thing was Gale's telescope, so it would be highly unusual if Gale brought that to Los Pollos Hermanos. ;)
 
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And remember the connection between Los Hermanos and the air-scrubbing filtration equipment manufacturer that behaved very suspiciously. That casts suspicion on any business that company owns, especially a fast food franchise, which is an odd fit with an equipment manufacturer but is the kind of business that can be used for cover/money laundering. The fingerprints are what seals the deal - that's just too many coincidences. At the very least, it bears further investigation.
 
And remember the connection between Los Hermanos and the air-scrubbing filtration equipment manufacturer that behaved very suspiciously. That casts suspicion on any business that company owns, especially a fast food franchise, which is an odd fit with an equipment manufacturer but is the kind of business that can be used for cover/money laundering. The fingerprints are what seals the deal - that's just too many coincidences. At the very least, it bears further investigation.


Remember the commerical for Los Pollos Hermanos from more than a year ago? Yeah, the fine print on it stated "Los Pollos Hermanos, Inc. is a registered trademark of Madrigal Electromotive." So, this has been in the works for awhile.

Love it.

Here's the video again. I apologize for the subtitles, but you can still read the fine print better here than in the other version I saw w/out the subtitles.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlXz0Xs2328[/yt]
 
A great episode. This is really looking to be a season for Aaron Paul to shine as Jesse. And the past couple of episodes have finally given Walt, Jr. something to do as well. I can't imagine it ending any other way than with Gus' death, though. It will be interesting to see what happens.

And, with all the money Skylar has to launder, will they end up buying the laser tag place after all?
 
But the fingerprints Gus left at Gale's apartment weren't on the napkin, they were on some red piece of equipment....Edit: I just read online that the red thing was Gale's telescope, so it would be highly unusual if Gale brought that to Los Pollos Hermanos. ;)

I need new glasses.:wah: (Literally true, sad to say.)
I thought the stock number was written on a paper bag and couldn't tell what that other thing was.

The point about the international firm paints Gus as more or less a billionaire. Does this really fit?

The NA scene was spectacular but I thought the most successful scene was Walt dipping into his now theoretical knowledge of human decency to push Jesse's buttons re Fring.
 
The point about the international firm paints Gus as more or less a billionaire. Does this really fit?

It only paints him that way if you think he's the boss, and not just another cog in a multinational corporation.

That said, there's clearly a lot of money at play here. He's paying Walt and Jesse a fortune, and there was $50 million + the cost of a vegetable platter ( ;) ) to burn o the cartel guys...
 
A great episode. This is really looking to be a season for Aaron Paul to shine as Jesse. And the past couple of episodes have finally given Walt, Jr. something to do as well. I can't imagine it ending any other way than with Gus' death, though. It will be interesting to see what happens.

And, with all the money Skylar has to launder, will they end up buying the laser tag place after all?

With regards to Skyler having some extra laundry to do, I think this is where a story thread we haven't seen since last season will be revived: Ted Beneke.

Totally agreed on Aaron Paul, btw. He's been outstanding this season.
 
I think the scene when Walt causes the Challenger explode is very important in showing the change in Walt's character. In Season 1, he did something similiar to another car in Season 1 that was being driven by some asshole talking on the phone that got on Walt's nerves. Walt did something to the car that made the engine heat up and catch on fire. But that wasn't as big as the explosion of the Challenger. And back then, Walt was walking away from the car and not turning back when the fire was made. But in the Challenger scene, he actually turns around, sits down, and calmly calls someone to pick him up as the car explodes and Walt watches the wreckage with something akin to fascination. This Walt isn't afraid to see the mess his actions have made and the extreme difference between causing an engine to catch on fire and causing an entire car to explode shows Walt's increased capacity for destruction.
 
It's looking to me like this season is going to end with Gus dead and Walt in his place as kingpin of New Mexico in some capacity, with the final season being Walt's fall after reaching the apex of his chosen trade. Though I'd be interested to see how Gus would be taken down in a way that doesn't take Walt with him, given how things stand.

I read a suggestion somewhere that the current storyline is a bit like an action movie told from the villain's perspective: last season Hank got an action hero climax, then he spent a bunch of the season depressed and recovering while the villains (ie, the protagonists) rule, now Hank is back in the game and zeroing in on "Heisenberg".
 
...I'd be interested to see how Gus would be taken down in a way that doesn't take Walt with him, given how things stand.
I've been wondering about that too. That and how will Walt take over operations once Gus is gone. I'm guessing that he and Skylar will have to find a way to acquire/buy the laundromat with the meth lab and go from there. I don't know who's going to do in Gus though. We've got three possibilities... 1) The cartel, 2) Jesse's rice & beans, and 3) Hank. I'm guessing it'll be Hank, after Gus is exposed by the cartel.

As for the latest episode, "Hermanos", it ended and I thought... Best damn show on TV. Gus really has his tracks covered doesn't he? Talk about hiding in plain sight. The only thing they didn't cover was the industrial appliance with the suspicious paper trail and connections to his business. Also, what can we learn from that glimpse we saw of his past?
 
Jesse knowing all the drops for Fring's distribution network suggests very strongly he'll play a role in taking over the organization.

Walt's contempt for Jesse is misleading him. He was right that Jesse can't forgive Fring. He's forgotten that Jesse's fairly bright when he isn't screwed up (chemically, mostly, but sometimes in hysterics.) "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer." Jesse was straight when he heard that.

The episode itself is much too much of a chapter in a serialized story to say much about. Need to see how it ends first.
 
I like how the show has been giving its tertiary characters (Mike, Gus, and to a lesser extent Saul) a little more motivation and background this past season. Tonight was a big episode for Gus, and the final flashback was a great scene.
 
Last night's episode really has my blood pumping for the next episode and th rest of the season.

I'm happy that Hank is back on the hunt which has given his life meaning again.

I love that we finally got a glimpse of Gus's past and the glimpse we got was a eyeful, revealing at least one of the reasons why Gus has grown to become such a cold, caculating operator.

I bet Walt feels more alone than ever in his fight aganist Gus, thinking that Jesse has turned aganist him. But I don't think that's it. I think Jesse is just bidding his time with Gus, getting rid of Walt's plan to kill Gus and trying to come up with a better plan to get the job done by pretending to be one of the guys and keeping his eyes open. But he isn't telling Walt what he is up to because he thinks Walt would freak out over it which would ruin things. He may be right about that. Walt, to me, just seems to be losing his badass mojo since the Season 3 finale or the beginning of the first episode of this season. On one hand, I'm sad about this and waiting for the moment that Heisenberg really comes out to play other than to deliver a speech to Skylar though it was a good one. I want to see some master plotting and full-blown warfare erupt between Heisenberg and Gus. But on the other hand, I understand why Walt feels so trapped and powerless. Gus is a formidable opponent. He isn't blindly impulsive like Tuco. He is far from a drug-addicted amateur like Jane. He isn't so thickly single-minded like the Cousins. He is bigger than all of them and his experience in the drug trade and defending what is his is light-years ahead of Walt's. When faced aganist someone like that, it makes you feel like an ant in the shadow of a building, stuck between two intense emotional states: terror and desperation.

There's two clips in the promo of next week's episode: one is a closeup of a sweaty Jesse leaning over someone and another is of knuckles that look like they have just delivered a beating. I think Jesse is going to beat up Walt to satisfy Gus for some reason or out of anger towards Walt for getting in the way of his secret plotting aganist Gus. I think Walt is the one who gets beat up by Jesse because I remember seeing a behind-the-scenes photo of Walt and Jesse months ago in which Walt had the beaten up face of a boxer, worse than the black hole he received from Mike. Walt getting that kind of beating will raise questions to those in his life outside of his drug dealing.
 
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