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SW blu-rays have changes to the films again

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would'nt george be grooming his children to take control of buisness aspects of skywalker ranch and star wars franchise?

Why? Just because their his children? I would hate to be his kid. "But, I want to be a doctor!" "NO, you're going fucking take over this kiddie empire and you're going to fucking love it!"

We could do worse than Katie Lucas. She's written some good Clone Wars episodes.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Katie_Lucas
 
would'nt george be grooming his children to take control of buisness aspects of skywalker ranch and star wars franchise?

Why? Just because their his children? I would hate to be his kid. "But, I want to be a doctor!" "NO, you're going fucking take over this kiddie empire and you're going to fucking love it!"

We could do worse than Katie Lucas. She's written some good Clone Wars episodes.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Katie_Lucas

One of his daughters is an MMA fighter I believe. I doubt he'd drop total control of the 'franchise' upon either kid unless they wanted it.
 
I don't understand why they can't have every version of the trilogy available on BD they could allow you to switch between the different versions whenever you want via seamless branching but I guess that would make too much sense.
 
Why? Just because their his children? I would hate to be his kid. "But, I want to be a doctor!" "NO, you're going fucking take over this kiddie empire and you're going to fucking love it!"

We could do worse than Katie Lucas. She's written some good Clone Wars episodes.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Katie_Lucas

One of his daughters is an MMA fighter I believe. I doubt he'd drop total control of the 'franchise' upon either kid unless they wanted it.

I would'nt want to be on her dark side.
 
Eh...letting Greedo fire the first shot shows Han as even more of a bad-ass, because even if you get the first shot off, Han still lives and you still die ;)
What they should do is have Greedo's shot at least graze Han's shoulder or something. Like in an old Western shootout. Han lets the guy shoot first, takes a laser "bullet" ... then blasts his rival into oblivion.

Yeah. :evil:
 
Why not CGI Han talking Greedo out of trying to collect a bounty on him? That way, it will encourage children to solve their problems nonviolently.
 
I don't understand why they can't have every version of the trilogy available on BD they could allow you to switch between the different versions whenever you want via seamless branching but I guess that would make too much sense.

Exactly.

All he has to do is take the original versions, take them through the process every movies goes through when it makes a good transfer between one format to another and then make them available. on the DVD.

The LD-quality versions available in the most recent box-set are not good enough as they're still pretty low quality compared to what DVD is capable of displaying.
 
I don't understand why they can't have every version of the trilogy available on BD they could allow you to switch between the different versions whenever you want via seamless branching but I guess that would make too much sense.

It's simple. Lucas doesn't want the Theatrical releases available. He's said why countless times. Agree or disagree, but that's why.
 
It's simple. Lucas doesn't want the Theatrical releases available. He's said why countless times. Agree or disagree, but that's why.

The theatrical versions were relased a while back, but not in the best quality. They were on a second dvd and considered bonus features. But they were limited and currently sold out on places like Amazon. I bought them because a store was offering bonus SW posters with purchase.

The only theatrical version that I prefer over the SE is ANH. It has much better pacing in terms of editing over the SE. I prefer the SE of ESB and ROTJ over the originals since most of the new CGI added to the movies instead of being too distracting like ANH. :shrug:
 
It's simple. Lucas doesn't want the Theatrical releases available. He's said why countless times. Agree or disagree, but that's why.

The theatrical versions were relased a while back, but not in the best quality. They were on a second dvd and considered bonus features. But they were limited and currently sold out on places like Amazon. I bought them because a store was offering bonus SW posters with purchase.

The only theatrical version that I prefer over the SE is ANH. It has much better pacing in terms of editing over the SE. I prefer the SE of ESB and ROTJ over the originals since most of the new CGI added to the movies instead of being too distracting like ANH. :shrug:

But THAT release isn't good enough for some people. Lucas tried to compromise. People wanted more.
 
I take it that the theatrical cuts are, in fact, available in sufficient resolution for a blu-ray (or even 16x9 standard definition) release?
 
I've only even owned Star Wars twice:

- The VHS release in the late 90s (silver box, widescreen edition I think). Didn't watch it that often, sold them eventually.

- The DVD release in 2007 with the Special Editions and the original editions, which i still own.

I don't own a Blu-Ray player yet, so won't be buying this set. If I did I'd consider it.

Just out of curiousity, Blu Ray players are $100 now. What's holding you back?

The lack of a decent HD TV. :)

Plus I have twin one year olds, so currently have no cash whatsoever.
 
But THAT release isn't good enough for some people. Lucas tried to compromise. People wanted more.

Probably because of the low quality. If I want the original original trilogy at VHS quality or even at LD quality I can get that. I want the OT in true BD, and now BD, quality without CGI bullshit added in.

MLB strictly speaking the original film versions of the movie are of infinite resolution and quality since it's on an analogue medium, i.e. film. Digitizing it to disc simply sharpens it and cleans it. So, yes, if there's film versions of the movies there's enough quality there to make them on DVD, Blu-Ray, Ultra-violate Ray or X-Ray Ray.

It's been claimed sometimes that in order to make the SE editions of the movies the originals had to be destroyed which doesn't wash with me since to "remaster" them all they have to do is take the original film, copy it into a computer and then do the work. There's no machine that's going to copy film into a machine while also destroying the original. If he wanted to put the original movies out in the best format possible he could.

There's nothing stopping him beyond his own ignorant ego.
 
But THAT release isn't good enough for some people. Lucas tried to compromise. People wanted more.

If those versions had been the first versions of Star Wars released on dvd in 1999, people would have been a satisfied with them at the time. When dvds were first being released many of them were on-anamorphic as well. We just expect way more these days.

I'm just glad I got them since they ended up being limited editions after all. Happy I can watch the original verison of ANH. That version looks okay on a regular tv.
 
But THAT release isn't good enough for some people. Lucas tried to compromise. People wanted more.

If those versions had been the first versions of Star Wars released on dvd in 1999, people would have been a satisfied with them at the time. When dvds were first being released many of them were on-anamorphic as well. We just expect way more these days.:rommie:

I'm just glad I got them since they ended up being limited editions after all. Happy I can watch the original verison of ANH. That version looks okay on a regular tv.

No, it doesn't look fine at all. Colors which should remain constant flutter from frame to frame. Also, there are extensive stretches that look like a UHF TV slightly out of tune. About all I can say is that it's better than nothing.
 
It's simple. Lucas doesn't want the Theatrical releases available. He's said why countless times. Agree or disagree, but that's why.

The theatrical versions were relased a while back, but not in the best quality. They were on a second dvd and considered bonus features. But they were limited and currently sold out on places like Amazon. I bought them because a store was offering bonus SW posters with purchase.

The only theatrical version that I prefer over the SE is ANH. It has much better pacing in terms of editing over the SE. I prefer the SE of ESB and ROTJ over the originals since most of the new CGI added to the movies instead of being too distracting like ANH. :shrug:

But THAT release isn't good enough for some people. Lucas tried to compromise. People wanted more.

Yeah, I'm convinced that if Lucas gave these people everything they wanted, they would still run to the internet boards and trash him. Then they'd complain that the original films were one pixel off or something. Sometimes it's just complaining for the sake of complaining.

I don't see why they would be upset with any changes made to TPM. They've spent 12 years posting about how much they hated the film so what does it matter if GL changes it?
 
Personally, I disagree with anyone who says that Lucas has made any truly significant changes to any of the OT. Just minor stuff that only the geekiest of the geeks will complain about.

Precisely. I've never had a strong preference one way or the other regarding the various editions of the original trilogy. I can probably pick individual moments that work better in one edition or the other if I think about it (by default, CGI Jabba in A New Hope works better on the 2004 DVDs than the 1997 Special Edition, for example), but mostly it's not a big deal.

As far as the notorious Han-shooting-Greedo business goes, Lucas' excuse that they didn't have the time or money to insert the last blast showing Greedo firing is at least plausible - watching the original blast, one doesn't actually see Han's muzzle flare either. But it was added a trifle awkwardly in the special edition, was improved in the 2004 DVDs, and is not profoundly upsetting to me either way it's done.

Oh, and replacing the Phantom Menace Yoda with a CGI equivalent is long overdue, if anything. That puppet was distinctly inferior to both the puppetry of the original trilogy and the CGI model of the subsequent films, and the clip I've seen of the re-CGIed Yoda... just reacts bloody better than the puppet did.

My issue with the Han/Greedo thing is Lucas's claim that he didn't want Han "murdering someone in cold blood" doesn't make sense. Han DID kill Greedo in self-defense. One someone points a gun (or blaster) at you and basically tells you he's going to kill you, it's completely justifiable to take action to protect yourself. It's probably more justifiable in the SW galaxy.

Also, it's odd that GL makes such a committment to getting the FX to be correct but allows a horribly fake and manipulated scene like Greedo firing and Han moving out of the way to be in the film. It just looks awful and fake.
 
It's been claimed sometimes that in order to make the SE editions of the movies the originals had to be destroyed which doesn't wash with me since to "remaster" them all they have to do is take the original film, copy it into a computer and then do the work. There's no machine that's going to copy film into a machine while also destroying the original. If he wanted to put the original movies out in the best format possible he could.

And even if they were, there are still preserved copies of the films around. Even if they were noticeably lacking compared to the master, a restoration of the originals could use the Special Editions for the primary source, and then dip into the lower-quality copy whenever the changes couldn't be removed. Kind of like what happened with "The Cage" where footage from "The Menagerie" is used for most of it, and crossfades into a workprint for the parts that weren't reused.
 
I don't see why they would be upset with any changes made to TPM. They've spent 12 years posting about how much they hated the film so what does it matter if GL changes it?

That's because on one cares about TPM that much to complain. As far as I know the movie has no rabid fanboys like the OT has. In fact I've come across many posts mentioning that ILM finally replacing that stupid looking puppet in the movie with CGI is nothing but good news.

Also I really doubt Lucas will ever replace the puppet Yoda in the OT with a CGI. I remember reading in articles that he really lobbied for Frank Oz to get an Academy Award for his preformance.

This is the same reason Lucas has mostly left the music untouched in OT for the SE except for a few new pieces of music from John Williams. The music is one of things he considers getting completely right the first time around.
 
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