You got hate mail? Was there lots of it?
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You got hate mail? Was there lots of it?
Not me, personally. But reading the discussions of the character on-line . . . hooh boy!
I think The Lost Room may have been an inspiration for WH13, but in TLR the artifacts don't really have a connection to their previous owners like in WH13 . . . they just emerged with an inexplicable new use
personally I'd want the comb and the key
then I wouldn't need a car, and I'd always be on time
There's a comic continuation of The Lost Room that's supposed to be out very soon now from Red5 Comics.
And as far as the the objects of TLR not having the same M.O. as the artifacts of WH13, whose to say... Massive Localized Psychokenetic-Space/Time Events have a way of changing the rules every now and then... Hehe.
And as far as the the objects of TLR not having the same M.O. as the artifacts of WH13, whose to say... Massive Localized Psychokenetic-Space/Time Events have a way of changing the rules every now and then... Hehe.
Jinxy gets bronzed? The producers seem to think they're walking on glass with this character.
Artie as field agent doesn't work right, because the Pete/Myka stories just have fragmentary glimpses of him in the Farnsworth. He needs to have scenes doing things in the warehouse. So, if Claudia is going to be a field agent she needs a partner, which is why they have Jinxy in the first place. But what good is he if they're afraid to write the character.
Pete and Myka drunk on W.C. Fields' juggling balls weren't different enough from regular Pete and Myka, which is why I got a little tired of the freneticism on this show. Comedy alway needs a straight man, they need Jinxy.
Artie as field agent doesn't work right, because the Pete/Myka stories just have fragmentary glimpses of him in the Farnsworth. He needs to have scenes doing things in the warehouse. So, if Claudia is going to be a field agent she needs a partner, which is why they have Jinxy in the first place. But what good is he if they're afraid to write the character.
Pete and Myka drunk on W.C. Fields' juggling balls weren't different enough from regular Pete and Myka, which is why I got a little tired of the freneticism on this show. Comedy alway needs a straight man, they need Jinxy.
In fact it's often the reverse.
Anyway, is it a given that scifi has fewer gay characters than non-scifi does? If so, why would this be? Doesn't a certain amount of open-mindedness automatically come with a genre that features E.T.s and wizards and other dimensions and shit?
You would think so, but, sadly, that isn't always the case.
EDIT My theory is that it's because Sci-Fi's biggest demographic is still adolescent males. Adolescent males who are even less secure in their sexuality than most of that famously insecure bunch. As a gay man I honestly get less hassle from frat boys in a sports bar than I do from straight male sci-fi fans at a con or comic/game store. To the point where I (even in 2011) feel the need to be "in the closet" in that environment. But felt no need to hide my sexuality when working as a bartender at a straight sports bar.
It's been my impression that the plague of insecurity in fandom has only gotten worse in the last few years.
I haven't noticed any anti-gay trends in fandom, but then I wasn't looking for them.
What sorts of hassles are you referring to Aeolusdallas, and what particular insecurities would you say are contributing to the "plague" RJDiogenes?
It's sad that anyone should be made to feel uncomfortable for being who they are, especially in a community environment composed of fans of entertainment primarily made to help people relax and enjoy themselves.
What sorts of hassles are you referring to Aeolusdallas, and what particular insecurities would you say are contributing to the "plague" RJDiogenes?
It's sad that anyone should be made to feel uncomfortable for being who they are, especially in a community environment composed of fans of entertainment primarily made to help people relax and enjoy themselves.
The insecurities go far beyond homophobia, and they're evident in many, if not most, of the discussions seen right here on TrekBBS. It all comes from being part of something that the mass audience still sees as fit only for geeks and losers and a desperate fear of being laughed at. The homophobia comes from the kids who are afraid of the whole "social misfit who can't get a date" stigma and want to prove their manhood by making fools of themselves.
In fact it's often the reverse.
You would think so, but, sadly, that isn't always the case.
EDIT My theory is that it's because Sci-Fi's biggest demographic is still adolescent males. Adolescent males who are even less secure in their sexuality than most of that famously insecure bunch. As a gay man I honestly get less hassle from frat boys in a sports bar than I do from straight male sci-fi fans at a con or comic/game store. To the point where I (even in 2011) feel the need to be "in the closet" in that environment. But felt no need to hide my sexuality when working as a bartender at a straight sports bar.
That's amazing. You've educated me on this issue. It reminds me of that creepy sensation that I felt shortly after I moved from the South to the Upper Midwest, and I discovered that bigotry (particularly race-hatred) is just as common (probably MORE) up here than it was down there. In fact, I'd say that in my experience with Wisconsonites, homophobia is very rare, but racial bigotry is as common as dirt.
Well, the producers sure seem to be insecure about their audience's response to Jinxy. A butch gay guy is too outside the stereotypes, perhaps. Playing Claudia/Jinxy as Laverne/Shirley seems to make them more comfortable.
At any rate, the Aug. 1 episode ctually used Jinxy as more than an oversized paper weight. As I thought they should, Claudia and Jinxy were partners in the B plot, freeing up Artie to horn in on the A plot via Farnsworth. I thought the storytelling flowed more smoothly that way.
The gag about Trekkies going to Civil War reenactments to play time traveler was terrific.
At any rate, the Aug. 1 episode ctually used Jinxy as more than an oversized paper weight. As I thought they should, Claudia and Jinxy were partners in the B plot, freeing up Artie to horn in on the A plot via Farnsworth. I thought the storytelling flowed more smoothly that way.
The gag about Trekkies going to Civil War reenactments to play time traveler was terrific.
Bumping the thread for the Aug. 8 episode, we find Jinxy is on personal leave. I do believe that we can safely say there is a serious likelihood that the producers are deeply uncomfortable with the gay character, whether for their own sensiblities (which, judging from the Pete/Myka interaction may not be too developed) or because they fear the reaction from male skiffy fans.
Or to put it another way, the ads mention The New Guy more often than the show puts him on.
Or to put it another way, the ads mention The New Guy more often than the show puts him on.
I don't think he was intended to be a regular; he's not standing there with the rest in the title sequence.
Sam Adama? He was in the opening credits.
Sam Adama was not a hero, much less a (possible) action hero. Are people thinking Sam Adama has already filled the quota for gay characters?
As I recall neither Alison Scagliotti nor Genelle Williams started as regulars. They needed someone to interact with at "home" with the characters, hence Lena. They needed someone to interact with Artie at the warehouse, hence Claudia. Then when they want to take Claudia out of the warehouse, they need a partner for her, since the show's centered first of all on the Pete/Myka pairing. Hence, they need Jinxy or someone. The credits are irrelevant at this point. (And they don't include Genelle Williams if I remember correctly. I tend to tune out credits unless I like the theme music.)
They've written that the character works there as an agent. That's main cast, no matter you spin it. The point is, if they are trying out the character to see if it works before they promote Ashmore to regular status and main cast, then not putting him in the episodes is pretty damn peculiar.
Jaime Murray may have had more screen time with one episode and her character is supposed to be in limbo or something!
As I recall neither Alison Scagliotti nor Genelle Williams started as regulars. They needed someone to interact with at "home" with the characters, hence Lena. They needed someone to interact with Artie at the warehouse, hence Claudia. Then when they want to take Claudia out of the warehouse, they need a partner for her, since the show's centered first of all on the Pete/Myka pairing. Hence, they need Jinxy or someone. The credits are irrelevant at this point. (And they don't include Genelle Williams if I remember correctly. I tend to tune out credits unless I like the theme music.)
They've written that the character works there as an agent. That's main cast, no matter you spin it. The point is, if they are trying out the character to see if it works before they promote Ashmore to regular status and main cast, then not putting him in the episodes is pretty damn peculiar.
Jaime Murray may have had more screen time with one episode and her character is supposed to be in limbo or something!
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