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Falling Skies: "Santuary pt. 2" Discussion/Comment **SPOILERS**

I like the way the 2d Mass. Took care of, what were they, 3d Mass? The quislings/traitors.
They were the remnants of the 7th Massachusetts. The 3rd Mass. was the group Clayton claimed was in retreat to the school where the 2nd is based.

And I'm liking Pope realize that, while he considers himself all bad ass, he has more in common with the good guys than the bad guys. Made him see "human" despite color and that the white guys were acting less human than the black father--which is not the kind of thing he was saying before.
I think my favorite moment in this episode was when Pope instinctively was going to kill Greene, but stopped and spat on him instead. Pope still has a long way to go to being a respectable and trustworthy character based on what we know of his history so far, but it is nice to see some evolution in his character already.

Not bad though sometimes this show's overdeveloped sense of decency is a bit eyerolling. OK so maybe not using the baddie's daughter or at least knocking her out is one thing but then to tell those guys to hit the road feels kind of phony.
That really should come back to bite them in the ass. Since the next handover was supposed to happen pretty soon (the same night that the children were rescued?), there is now absolutely no reason for the Collaborators not to tell the Skitters where the 2nd Mass. is staying.

All we can do at this point is hope that the show gets picked up for a full season next year and opens up this story even more.
As SG-17 pointed out, the show has already been renewed for a second season. On the "full season" comment, though, what do you consider a "full season"? Cable standard tends to be 13, but TNT itself really likes the number 10 (though, based on some episode listings on Wiki, it seems TNT also varies up to 13 or 15 or closer to 20 sometimes too).
 
It was a good episode, the stories need to vary a bit though. I am getting sick of Carter looking for his kids every week

More Moon Bloodgood would also be welcome
 
My theory is this: We know the skitter controlling Ben is dead, because we watched Hal kill him. I don't think the skitter who was controlling Ricky is dead, so it still has control of him. If they want the children to be okay, they have to kill the skitter in charge of them. After they kill the skitter in charge of them, they only have a short period of time to remove the harnesses or the child dies too. (Remember they lost the last child they tried to take the harness off of)

Also, I think that the skitters are taking the children, and took over Earth because they are unable to reproduce on their own anymore.

Just my theory!
 
My theory is this: We know the skitter controlling Ben is dead, because we watched Hal kill him. I don't think the skitter who was controlling Ricky is dead, so it still has control of him. If they want the children to be okay, they have to kill the skitter in charge of them. After they kill the skitter in charge of them, they only have a short period of time to remove the harnesses or the child dies too. (Remember they lost the last child they tried to take the harness off of)

Also, I think that the skitters are taking the children, and took over Earth because they are unable to reproduce on their own anymore.

Just my theory!
The first part of your theory looks good. You might have something there.
The second part, though, takes us into Mars Needs Women territory and I can't see this series surviving that :guffaw:
 
Interesting that we keep hearing only 2 more episodes? IMDB still shows 3 episodes with titles:
Ep 8 - What lies beneath July 31
Ep 9 - Mutiny Aug 7
Ep 10 - 8 Hours Aug 19
 
there was a Doctor who once where the human like aliens crash landed on a swamp planet and the swamp monsters killed the human like aliens, but then while looting the swamp monsters rapidly evolved to thrive in the crashed spaceship until 500 years later when they had long since forgotten that they were not the descendants of the swamp monsters...

Larry Niven wrote a book about how human beings, primates and monkeys are a pupil stage of the species who are all supposed to mindlessly breed, and then about after 40 years of screwing they eat some special roots that triggered an upgrade into a super intelegent super strong desexed (it just falls off) posthuman called a protector who's only drive is to protect the breeders... You can imagine how worried these space fearing protectors became when they found out there was an entire planet of breeders who had had no one looking after them for the last 200,000 years.

...

The ads for next week were talking about perhaps some sort of metamorphosis? Perhaps the skitters are not as alien as we think that they are? Maybe the skitter is a transitional stage between something else and these buggers returning to a human form they haven't needed for thousands of years since last time they were back home on Earth?

...

We seen plenty of parasitical births. Alien even. Maybe the skitters have their real children growing inside the human children? In that ad we saw them see inside a skitter and be surprised. We also saw them playing with the helmet casing of a mech. What ever they were hiding is hid no more.

www.tvcountdown.com says that 9 and 10 are a double episode.
 
Interesting that we keep hearing only 2 more episodes? IMDB still shows 3 episodes with titles:
Ep 8 - What lies beneath July 31
Ep 9 - Mutiny Aug 7
Ep 10 - 8 Hours Aug 19

TNT is now airing the final two episodes as a two-hour season finale on August 7. Like the pilot they are treating it as if it's one episode.
 
To convince the casual viewer who may have caught the first two episodes that were also linked that this is a very special episode and you can't miss this Falling Skies
 
I guess I wasn't really paying attention to whether or not there were multiple graves in that final scene, but all they talked about was Mike. What about the other scouts that were killed and not sent home? Did they just not get mentioned because they weren't big characters or are we to assume they had separate funerals?
 
They didn't show us the words said for the others since we didn't know them? Mike was the last so his funeral was all we needed to see/hear?
 
Mike may have been the last killed but it's not like they could have recovered the bodies of the other guys before they got Mike's. At least not recovered them, then returned then had a funeral then set out in search of Mike.

It's not a big deal, I just wish they would have mentioned the other guys so it didn't feel like the writers are treating everyone else as cannon fodder.
 
I finally saw Pt 1 and Pt 2 - would give both 4/5 - sure, the scenario is a tad predictable (I wasn't the only one who figured it out just from the previews ;)) but the characters are shaping up very nicely, and to me, that counts for a lot.

The three Mason brothers have a good dynamic together (Ben and Matt look like they could be brothers for real), Weaver is moving nicely away from the cliched Bad Military Guy mold, and Pope is a loose cannon who isn't always predictable. I also like Jimmy - spunky kid - but he's also the type of character that gets thwacked, which makes his scenes more nerve-wracking. Tom and Anne as the lead characters are both solid. Sad to see that Mike was dead for real - I liked the actor, he was very natural.

I'm still not sold on Meg - I'm not sure what the actress is trying to convey - is the character shell-shocked, blase, cynical or what? She just comes off as being on some kind of sedative. Religious-girl still has no apparent reason for being in the story.

The "slice of life" scenes are seeming a bit more natural now, not so corny or forced. Liked the scene in the house with religious girl playing the piano and Hal checking out the mummified birthday cake and then foraging for a coke.

Overall, this is a solidly good series that shows no signs of ever being great, but also shows no signs of getting really stupid/intolerable/unwatchable. That's good enough to keep me watching.

Also, the music is improving.

I'm starting to buy into thinking the Skitters are pawns in another's game (the mechs?).

I'm sticking with Skitters and Mechs both being pawns. The true alien overlords have not yet been seen, possibly because they are parasites that use other species (Skitters, whatever is in the Mechs - if anything, they might just be robots - and humans) as hosts as they spread across the galaxy.

Also, I think that the skitters are taking the children, and took over Earth because they are unable to reproduce on their own anymore.

I think the parasites that are controlling everyone are unable to reproduce at all, because that's how their species naturally is - hosts are their means of reproduction. The question becomes, where do baby parasites come from? Methinks a grisy Alien-style scene may be in our future...oh goody! :D
 
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Mike may have been the last killed but it's not like they could have recovered the bodies of the other guys before they got Mike's. At least not recovered them, then returned then had a funeral then set out in search of Mike.

It's not a big deal, I just wish they would have mentioned the other guys so it didn't feel like the writers are treating everyone else as cannon fodder.

I meant Mike was the last funeral. Well, in addition to him being the last killed. They had funerals for the others before Mike's, the cameras just got there too late ;).
 
I'm sticking with Skitters and Mechs both being pawns. The true alien overlords have not yet been seen, possibly because they are parasites that use other species (Skitters, whatever is in the Mechs - if anything, they might just be robots - and humans) as hosts as they spread across the galaxy.

My thoughts exactly. I think the harnesses are the alien overlords and they turn the children into Skitters. Not sure about the Mechs though, probably just scary robots for story-sake.
 
I think the harnesses contain the parasites and are the delivery system. Maybe the parasites are not teeny-weeny alien overlords, but rather they are the reproductive genetic material of the overlords, who are cooling their heels on their party armada in Alpha Centauri while their minions do their dirty work.

At this point, I'm wondering if I'm overestimating TNT's stomach to pursue an aliens-impregnate-our-children plotline. This ain't HBO! :rommie: But still, it's cable, they could go there.

I'm also really concerned about poor Rick. I think he's going to die messily so that the implication will be, Ben's next.
 
I finally saw Pt 1 and Pt 2 - would give both 4/5 - sure, the scenario is a tad predictable (I wasn't the only one who figured it out just from the previews ;)) but the characters are shaping up very nicely, and to me, that counts for a lot.

Overall, this is a solidly good series that shows no signs of ever being great, but also shows no signs of getting really stupid/intolerable/unwatchable. That's good enough to keep me watching.
Agreed. This is how I viewed Stargate SG-1, almost never a "Blow me away" episode, but, also almost never an episode so bad you're pissed you wasted the time watching it.

My all time, Big 3 Favorite SciFi Series are B5, DS9, and Farscape. Falling Skies will probably never reach that height, but, I also don't think I'll be let down by not being entertained by most episodes.

About Rick's Fate, yea, agreed. He's been the Guinea Pig for Ben's "Cure" all along, I'm surprised they've let him live this long (I thought he was a goner when Mike ripped his Harness back off), it's good because, we get a different perspective from him while he remains alive, but, yea, he'll be used again to make us worry about Ben's Fate
 
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