What kind of Star Wars book would you like to see from Trek Authors?
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Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore writing a novel about Han Solo and Lando Calrissian kicking ass.
Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore writing a novel about Han Solo and Lando Calrissian kicking ass.
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A crossover where Trek stomps in and lays waste to those pansy bitch Star Warsers
Written by.... whichever one dislikes Star Wars the most.
A crossover where Trek stomps in and lays waste to those pansy bitch Star Warsers
Written by.... whichever one dislikes Star Wars the most.
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Good ones.
Star Wars novels are total drek, and the writers seem to tell the same kind of stories all the time from what I hear, they don't have nearly the freedom ST writers have.
Good ones.
Star Wars novels are total drek, and the writers seem to tell the same kind of stories all the time from what I hear, they don't have nearly the freedom ST writers have.
Yevetha
Commodore
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They have more freedom then they used too now that they are finally abandoning the movie eras.
They have to respect canon much more which something some writers love and some writers hate.
Crispin enjoyed writing SW wery much.
They have more freedom then they used too now that they are finally abandoning the movie eras.
They have to respect canon much more which something some writers love and some writers hate.
Crispin enjoyed writing SW wery much.
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I would like to see some Trek-style pre-TPM stories with either an explorer looking for new hyperspace lanes or at least a starship and its crew.
I would like to see some Trek-style pre-TPM stories with either an explorer looking for new hyperspace lanes or at least a starship and its crew.
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Looking for new hyperspace lanes didn't work out so well for Gav and Jori Daragon!
Yevetha
Commodore
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I agree that would be great.
We never had anyting like that in SW.
I agree that would be great.
We never had anyting like that in SW.
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I know it is not answering exactly but I would have loved to read a clone wars novel made by John Ringo.
I know it is not answering exactly but I would have loved to read a clone wars novel made by John Ringo.
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For my money, the problem in writing Star Wars novels is that they're incapable, either intentionally or by executive mandate, of letting the torch pass completely to the next generation. When the day needs to be saved, it's yet to be time to look to the new generation of heroes, but instead, they look to Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, and Han Solo. I'll admit that Legacy of the Force had some rather big flaws, but I still like the fact that it was Jaina Solo who was the one to beat the bad guy.
But on the occasions where they try and shake up the status quo and let the next generation take on the major responsibilities, something happens (either reader backlash or an order from Lucasfilm to change things) to put the old heroes back in the spotlight, as if they're afraid of reducing the original characters to cameos, they'll lose readers. And, okay, sure, I understand that it could lose the casual reader who's only interested in Luke, Leia, Han, etc, but these characters are pushing sixty and seventy by the time of the latest novels, with a good forty plus stretch of their lives devoted to essentially nothing but keeping the galaxy together. Shouldn't by this point they WANT to let someone else shoulder the big responsibility of fighting the good fight?
Star Wars needs its DS9 equivalent, something that will open up the universe to allow stories not about the Skywalker family be told. I mean, the X-Wing novels were pretty popular, and the core group of the movies had nothing but cameos while the focus was on minor character Wedge and either even more minor characters or original ones, but they're essentially an exception in the overall scheme of things. Right now, Star Wars novels haven't had that expansion, so they keep telling stories about the Skywalker clan unless the time frame is before Phantom Menance. I'd like to think, though, that with novels like Crosscurrent and the forthcoming Riptide, they may be starting to get this, but I'm not exactly holding my breath at the moment.
For my money, the problem in writing Star Wars novels is that they're incapable, either intentionally or by executive mandate, of letting the torch pass completely to the next generation. When the day needs to be saved, it's yet to be time to look to the new generation of heroes, but instead, they look to Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, and Han Solo. I'll admit that Legacy of the Force had some rather big flaws, but I still like the fact that it was Jaina Solo who was the one to beat the bad guy.
But on the occasions where they try and shake up the status quo and let the next generation take on the major responsibilities, something happens (either reader backlash or an order from Lucasfilm to change things) to put the old heroes back in the spotlight, as if they're afraid of reducing the original characters to cameos, they'll lose readers. And, okay, sure, I understand that it could lose the casual reader who's only interested in Luke, Leia, Han, etc, but these characters are pushing sixty and seventy by the time of the latest novels, with a good forty plus stretch of their lives devoted to essentially nothing but keeping the galaxy together. Shouldn't by this point they WANT to let someone else shoulder the big responsibility of fighting the good fight?
Star Wars needs its DS9 equivalent, something that will open up the universe to allow stories not about the Skywalker family be told. I mean, the X-Wing novels were pretty popular, and the core group of the movies had nothing but cameos while the focus was on minor character Wedge and either even more minor characters or original ones, but they're essentially an exception in the overall scheme of things. Right now, Star Wars novels haven't had that expansion, so they keep telling stories about the Skywalker clan unless the time frame is before Phantom Menance. I'd like to think, though, that with novels like Crosscurrent and the forthcoming Riptide, they may be starting to get this, but I'm not exactly holding my breath at the moment.
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I'd like to see a series chronicling the 1,000 year period of all the Sith lords as they plan to bring down the Republic. We already have it started with the Darth Bane trilogy, but the rest can follow all the Darths between Bane and Sidious, and end where The Phantom Menace begins.
And as far as which Star Trek authors would write it, we're talking a multiple book series here, so let them all contribute.
I'd like to see a series chronicling the 1,000 year period of all the Sith lords as they plan to bring down the Republic. We already have it started with the Darth Bane trilogy, but the rest can follow all the Darths between Bane and Sidious, and end where The Phantom Menace begins.
And as far as which Star Trek authors would write it, we're talking a multiple book series here, so let them all contribute.
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The same thing kinda happened with the Star Trek movies. The original idea in Phase II was to add new characters, Decker, Ilia, and Xon, who would take over a lot of the central focus of the series -- Xon replacing Spock, Decker taking over the aging Kirk's action-hero role and maybe even taking over as lead if Shatner chose to appear only intermittently. But those characters were either absent from TMP or written out by the end. Then in TWOK, the introduction of Saavik and maybe David Marcus was meant to pave the way for a gradual torch-passing from the original cast to younger characters, but both those characters were written out within two movies. Nostalgia won out over novelty.
And then there's what's gone on in comics over the past couple of decades. For a while, DC and Marvel were willing to put their comics through a lot of major changes -- teams changed rosters, characters died and were replaced, characters got married, life moved forward. But over the past couple of decades, just about all those changes have been systematically undone in favor of a return to the old status quo. The original X-Men and Avengers came back and kicked out their replacements, the Silver Age Green Lantern and Flash and Atom returned from the dead, Peter Parker's marriage was undone, now Superman's going to be single again in the upcoming reboot, etc.
That's sort of what the long-promised TV series is supposed to be, isn't it? A story with a different focus from the movies, more about the bounty hunters, I think.
The same thing kinda happened with the Star Trek movies. The original idea in Phase II was to add new characters, Decker, Ilia, and Xon, who would take over a lot of the central focus of the series -- Xon replacing Spock, Decker taking over the aging Kirk's action-hero role and maybe even taking over as lead if Shatner chose to appear only intermittently. But those characters were either absent from TMP or written out by the end. Then in TWOK, the introduction of Saavik and maybe David Marcus was meant to pave the way for a gradual torch-passing from the original cast to younger characters, but both those characters were written out within two movies. Nostalgia won out over novelty.
And then there's what's gone on in comics over the past couple of decades. For a while, DC and Marvel were willing to put their comics through a lot of major changes -- teams changed rosters, characters died and were replaced, characters got married, life moved forward. But over the past couple of decades, just about all those changes have been systematically undone in favor of a return to the old status quo. The original X-Men and Avengers came back and kicked out their replacements, the Silver Age Green Lantern and Flash and Atom returned from the dead, Peter Parker's marriage was undone, now Superman's going to be single again in the upcoming reboot, etc.
That's sort of what the long-promised TV series is supposed to be, isn't it? A story with a different focus from the movies, more about the bounty hunters, I think.
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Okay, I'll play.
No offense to Christopher, but I think he would be ill-suited to writing a novel about Princess Leia's life on Alderaan as suggested in the first post as that wouldn't play to his strengths as a writer. I do, however, see him suited to a novel that explores the biological basis of the Force, the Midichlorians, and Darth Pelagius' attempts to create life.
Diane Duane or David R. George III would be ideal for a novel about the politics of the Old Republic's Senate.
I'd love a Margaret Wander Bonanno novel that does for Qui-Gon Jinn what Burning Dreams did for Christopher Pike.
Peter David should write a metatextual novel in which the Star Wars characters try to prevent Kevin J. Anderson and George Lucas from destroying their universe. Or, barring that, he writes a Jaxxon novel.
Okay, I'll play.
No offense to Christopher, but I think he would be ill-suited to writing a novel about Princess Leia's life on Alderaan as suggested in the first post as that wouldn't play to his strengths as a writer. I do, however, see him suited to a novel that explores the biological basis of the Force, the Midichlorians, and Darth Pelagius' attempts to create life.
Diane Duane or David R. George III would be ideal for a novel about the politics of the Old Republic's Senate.
I'd love a Margaret Wander Bonanno novel that does for Qui-Gon Jinn what Burning Dreams did for Christopher Pike.
Peter David should write a metatextual novel in which the Star Wars characters try to prevent Kevin J. Anderson and George Lucas from destroying their universe. Or, barring that, he writes a Jaxxon novel.
Yevetha
Commodore
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We are about to have something like that by Luceno.
Leia is less of an action hero and there are a lot of details regarding the early rebellion which he could fit together, thats why i think it would be great form. Plus she is a diplomat.
We are about to have something like that by Luceno.
Leia is less of an action hero and there are a lot of details regarding the early rebellion which he could fit together, thats why i think it would be great form. Plus she is a diplomat.
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Actually I've always been a bit curious about what Senator Leia Organa's pre-Death Star life was like, and what Alderaan was like before it went kerflooey. And certainly if I were to do anything in the Star Wars universe, it would have to be some aspect of it that didn't involve the "Wars" part. I don't do war stories.
Actually I've always been a bit curious about what Senator Leia Organa's pre-Death Star life was like, and what Alderaan was like before it went kerflooey. And certainly if I were to do anything in the Star Wars universe, it would have to be some aspect of it that didn't involve the "Wars" part. I don't do war stories.
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I was thinking this would be perfect for KRAD, actually. Preferably set in less corrupt times than the years leading up to the Clone Wars, of course.
I really can't imagine it would be possible to avoid the "wars" part, though. Star Wars is fundamentally a story about a politically unstable society ripping itself apart. If you're doing a story about Leia's life before the Death Star, you'd necessarily be doing a story about life under occupation from a brutal dictator. It'd be the equivalent of doing a story about living in Weimar after the Nazis came.
I was thinking this would be perfect for KRAD, actually. Preferably set in less corrupt times than the years leading up to the Clone Wars, of course.
I really can't imagine it would be possible to avoid the "wars" part, though. Star Wars is fundamentally a story about a politically unstable society ripping itself apart. If you're doing a story about Leia's life before the Death Star, you'd necessarily be doing a story about life under occupation from a brutal dictator. It'd be the equivalent of doing a story about living in Weimar after the Nazis came.
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I always wanted to do something with the Imperial military - some years back myself and another writer were setting up to do short stories about the Imperial JAG office, with a female officer, for one of the magazines, but it never came off...
I always wanted to do something with the Imperial military - some years back myself and another writer were setting up to do short stories about the Imperial JAG office, with a female officer, for one of the magazines, but it never came off...
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I gotta admit: If I were tapped to do a STAR WARS book, I would want to do a "classic" SW book involving Luke and Han and Leia and the gang. And it wouldn't have to be a hard-edged "war" story or political drama. There's plenty of room in the SW universe for old-fashioned, swashbuckling adventure.
I mean, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is set during World War II, but I wouldn't consider it a war film like THE DIRTY DOZEN or THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI. It's pure pulp adventure--just like STAR WARS sometimes.
When I think of STAR WARS, I remember Luke and Leia swinging on a rope over death-defying chasms, and thrilling light-saber duels right out out of an old Errol Flynn movie. It was an exhilarating space-opera adventure with echoes of Flash Gordon, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and King Arthur.
I could be wrong, but way back in 1977, I'm not sure anybody came out of STAR WARS thinking it was fundamentally about "a politically unstable society" or life under the Nazis!
I gotta admit: If I were tapped to do a STAR WARS book, I would want to do a "classic" SW book involving Luke and Han and Leia and the gang. And it wouldn't have to be a hard-edged "war" story or political drama. There's plenty of room in the SW universe for old-fashioned, swashbuckling adventure.
I mean, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is set during World War II, but I wouldn't consider it a war film like THE DIRTY DOZEN or THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI. It's pure pulp adventure--just like STAR WARS sometimes.
When I think of STAR WARS, I remember Luke and Leia swinging on a rope over death-defying chasms, and thrilling light-saber duels right out out of an old Errol Flynn movie. It was an exhilarating space-opera adventure with echoes of Flash Gordon, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and King Arthur.
I could be wrong, but way back in 1977, I'm not sure anybody came out of STAR WARS thinking it was fundamentally about "a politically unstable society" or life under the Nazis!
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Well, yeah, but Raiders of the Lost Ark wasn't entitled World War II and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, y'know?
World War II was its setting, not its subject. Star Wars explicitly made the Galactic Civil Wars its subject.
Well, yeah, but Raiders of the Lost Ark wasn't entitled World War II and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, y'know?
World War II was its setting, not its subject. Star Wars explicitly made the Galactic Civil Wars its subject.
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