What continuity errors are there on Voyager?
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Well Garret did bring a different new conquest girl to the set every day according to a quote form the people magazine article.
Now for the virgins working on the set, and god for bid the sad bastards who married unwisely... Wang must be destroyed, and Harry Kim along with him.
Spite rocks.
Now for the virgins working on the set, and god for bid the sad bastards who married unwisely... Wang must be destroyed, and Harry Kim along with him.
Spite rocks.
I was generically talking about everyone of course.
Have you heard about "Play or pay"?
If the contract specifies that the actor needs to be paid to be in a specific number of episodes, they will be paid for that many episodes even if they are not used.
They could have cut Wang from 25 episodes a season because his character could not be organically introduced to the story, but they would still have to pay him as if all those weeks adventures had been all about Kim.
The wangcentric point I was glancing across was why did Kim (Neelix, Kes, possibly Tuvok?) warrant a 26 episode contract? We could have had a richer cast if there were a few more reocurring characters to bump along an ongoing b-story aboard the ship no matter what the aliens were doing to frack Janeway over.
Why was he in the main cast if they couldn't write him as a main cast member?
I've almost finished watching Felicity, and you know who they have show up now and then? Noah Frakking Lessing. Felicity could pay to have this CYLON (He was one of them) walk in and pretend that there was rich landscape of characters revolving around that boring girls huge haircut, but Voyager couldn't?
Yeah, but if you look at Voyager, most of the truly life changing events never actually happened. Much of Voyager's serious events are resets, so Harry really never had much happen to him that would cause any serious change in him. Unlike everyone but Kes, Harry had no personal baggage. So what really were his goals for personal growth? Only thing Harry had to prove was that he could live without mommy & daddy.
But they could have use the first 3 seasons to build up a remarkable character, his Star Fleet metal tested and his young life shaped by experiences in the DQ...then the next four seasons we could have seen it play out...instead we pretty much got nothing from the character. I didn't think Wang was that bad.
Maybe all Harry was ever meant to be was the tech nerd/victim just for the others to play off of and nothing more?
i was looking at the three Kimless episodes.
One still had a Wang. B'Elanna was dreaming abotu him as a Zombie.
wang only missed two episodes.
hey?
Blood Fever?
Vorriks big episode?
They had to bring in a ringer, the producers son in an emergency because Wang was... That doesn't make sense? Wang must have been sick? Maybe a Skiing accident?
Wow.
People magazine saved his ass.
Did anyone else get suspended?
One still had a Wang. B'Elanna was dreaming abotu him as a Zombie.
wang only missed two episodes.
hey?
Blood Fever?
Vorriks big episode?
They had to bring in a ringer, the producers son in an emergency because Wang was... That doesn't make sense? Wang must have been sick? Maybe a Skiing accident?
They took punitive action against Garret?
Wow.
People magazine saved his ass.
Did anyone else get suspended?
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In my scenario you would want those life changing events to actually happen.
I would think his goals should to be become someone that matters, someone to be counted on, someone that the whole crew can look to...someone the captain can be proud of as a member of her crew...if all he is gonna be is tech nerd/victim for others to play off of...the character becomes nothing and I personally wouldn't have him there.
In Season 6 or seven, when they got the Midas array up and running, Kim wanted to talk to his mommy so bad that he brought out the "I'm so pathetic, pleeease have sympathy, puppy dog eyes" to Queue jump ahead of every one else.
Is he a 12 year old Girl?
Is he a 12 year old Girl?
Understood but playing Devil's Advocate, wasn't Harry all that from the start? Isn't that why he was opposite to Tom Paris?
In my scenario you would want those life changing events to actually happen.
I would think his goals should to be become someone that matters, someone to be counted on, someone that the whole crew can look to...someone the captain can be proud of as a member of her crew...if all he is gonna be is tech nerd/victim for others to play off of...the character becomes nothing and I personally wouldn't have him there.
Stop it!
Grown men over in Iraq who aren't married usually make their first phone call to their mother. Grown men who are professional footballs players across the country look dead into the camera a scream; "Hi Mom!"
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Jetfire
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Understood but playing Devil's Advocate, wasn't Harry all that from the start? Isn't that why he was opposite to Tom Paris?
In my scenario you would want those life changing events to actually happen.
I would think his goals should to be become someone that matters, someone to be counted on, someone that the whole crew can look to...someone the captain can be proud of as a member of her crew...if all he is gonna be is tech nerd/victim for others to play off of...the character becomes nothing and I personally wouldn't have him there.
I didn't think he was all that from the start...he had the potential to be all that...and Tom is looked at as the guy who could spoil it if Harry allows Tom to influence him. But didn't all this(your questions) get thrown out the airlock after the pilot?
I guess not from my POV.Understood but playing Devil's Advocate, wasn't Harry all that from the start? Isn't that why he was opposite to Tom Paris?In my scenario you would want those life changing events to actually happen.
I would think his goals should to be become someone that matters, someone to be counted on, someone that the whole crew can look to...someone the captain can be proud of as a member of her crew...if all he is gonna be is tech nerd/victim for others to play off of...the character becomes nothing and I personally wouldn't have him there.
I didn't think he was all that from the start...he had the potential to be all that...and Tom is looked at as the guy who could spoil it if Harry allows Tom to influence him. But didn't all this(your questions) get thrown out the airlock after the pilot?
Harry was still loyal, trust worthy and dependable.
He was Starfleet's drone.
Maybe they should of have more of Tom rub off on him.
It would have given Harry an edge. I know for a fact from Wang himself, he wanted Harry to be more of an "action hero" for Voyager. Maybe they should have made Harry a fighter instead of being passive.
I just think they made Harry bland so he wouldn't come off as annoying tech know it all like Wesley.
Stop it!
Grown men over in Iraq who aren't married usually make their first phone call to their mother. Grown men who are professional footballs players across the country look dead into the camera a scream; "Hi Mom!"
Sometimes breast feeding continues into midlife, and there's almost nothing wrong with that, but here was 120ish other crew who medically needed to talk to their children, parents and spouses who gave up their place in line to talk to their significant someones.
120 people who thought that either Kim's need was greater than their own, or that or that he was too emotionally incompetant to cope with waiting for a month to talk to his mommy without doing himself harm.
They were treating him like one of those winawish cancer kids who want to meet LeBron James before they buy the farm.
It takes a village to raise Harry Kim.
Ever seen that HBO "Game of Thrones" show?
Lately Lebron James sounds just as full of himself as Garrett Wang.Stop it!
Grown men over in Iraq who aren't married usually make their first phone call to their mother. Grown men who are professional footballs players across the country look dead into the camera a scream; "Hi Mom!"
Sometimes breast feeding continues into midlife, and there's almost nothing wrong with that, but here was 120ish other crew who medically needed to talk to their children, parents and spouses who gave up their place in line to talk to their significant someones.
120 people who thought that either Kim's need was greater than their own, or that or that he was too emotionally incompetant to cope with waiting for a month to talk to his mommy without doing himself harm.
They were treating him like one of those winawish cancer kids who want to meet LeBron James before they buy the farm.
It takes a village to raise Harry Kim.
Wasn't part of the underlying idea in Voyager & DS9, they those within the Federation are pampered and spoiled?
He fights without honor, he'll live.
Honour is for suckers.
It's not that breast feeding isn't a fascinating subject, but just this weekend, one particular inconsistency of Voyager came back to bother me.
In season 3's Warlord, Kes breaks up with Neelix. Only it's really Tieran who has taken over Kes and wants Neelix off his back. After the episode, Tieran's gone and things should go back to "normal". But it appears that the break-up was for real.
Now, I grant that they might as well have broken up off-screen, shortly after that episode. It's just very peculiar that it coincided with this episode. Always seemed to me that the writers conveniently forgot what really happened in Warlord.
And now, back to breast feeding.
In season 3's Warlord, Kes breaks up with Neelix. Only it's really Tieran who has taken over Kes and wants Neelix off his back. After the episode, Tieran's gone and things should go back to "normal". But it appears that the break-up was for real.
Now, I grant that they might as well have broken up off-screen, shortly after that episode. It's just very peculiar that it coincided with this episode. Always seemed to me that the writers conveniently forgot what really happened in Warlord.
And now, back to breast feeding.
Took me 5 weeks to notice they weren't together anymore.
When Kes started glomming onto that shuttle pilot in Alter Ego.
Let me explain how your regular woman type person might react to this sort of betrayal.
"You could have fought for me. You should have fought for me."
Or
"Well you obviously thought it was a good idea then, so why not now?"
Or
"How come you didn't know it wasn't me? Don't you know who I am? If you can't even bother learning who I am, then why should I care who you are?"
Or
"You were glad he dumped you, you were glad to be free of me. you wanted your freedom and you got it."
Or
"Tieran was only saying what the three of us were thinking."
or
"Tieran only said what I was afraid to say myself. He did me a favour."
Or
She didn't have to say anything because Neelix was afraid that she would express anyone of those thoughts or half a dozen as equally toxic.
When Kes started glomming onto that shuttle pilot in Alter Ego.
Let me explain how your regular woman type person might react to this sort of betrayal.
"You could have fought for me. You should have fought for me."
Or
"Well you obviously thought it was a good idea then, so why not now?"
Or
"How come you didn't know it wasn't me? Don't you know who I am? If you can't even bother learning who I am, then why should I care who you are?"
Or
"You were glad he dumped you, you were glad to be free of me. you wanted your freedom and you got it."
Or
"Tieran was only saying what the three of us were thinking."
or
"Tieran only said what I was afraid to say myself. He did me a favour."
Or
She didn't have to say anything because Neelix was afraid that she would express anyone of those thoughts or half a dozen as equally toxic.
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