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James Luceno's Darth Plageuis Cover Revealed!

Just the comments after I posted it were discouraging at first. I wanted reactions to the actual art not debates about canon or political views on Luceno and Lucas.

There's not a whole lot of discussion that can be had over just the cover alone (It's cool! It sucks!). Let the conversation flow through the thread, my young apprentice. I actually found the whole Luceno discussion pretty interesting.

Anyway, the artwork on the cover looks good, I just wish they had chosen a less shitty looking alien to play such a key Sith Lord than a Muun. I mean, they're built like Aladdin Sane-era Bowie but with a giant eraser on their heads.



I might forgive them if they used Olivia Munn as a Sith Lord, though.

 
^ Any thread that leads to pics of Olivia Munn in her Slave Leia outfit equals EPIC WIN! :drool: :techman:

But, just curious, what species would you have preferred Plageuis to be?
 
^ Any thread that leads to pics of Olivia Munn in her Slave Leia outfit equals EPIC WIN! :drool: :techman:

But, just curious, what species would you have preferred Plageuis to be?

If it had to be an alien, the Chiss would be a good choice, because they look human but badass (blue skin, black hair, red eyes) so they're relatable but intimidating. They had an ancient grudge against the Republic, they've allied with the Sith before, they're great strategists who play the long game like Plageuis and Palpatine, and it would provide a further means of connection between Palpatine and Thrawn besides their collaboration in the Outbound Flight incident. One of Dooku's acolytes was even Chiss.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chiss
 
Isn't there some kind of connection between the Munns and IG-88? The heads are similar, and the Muuns run the Intergalactic (IG?) banking clan. Plus that Tartovsky Clone Wars story had them using droids similar to IG-88.
 
Ooops. Matthew Stover wrote Vector Prime haha. Another author who received hatred from fans after a major character's death.

Luceno saying something and the editors saying something are two very different things. Sigh. This has become too big a deal and something I didn't want to get in. This thread has morphed into something entirely different than what I wanted to discuss which was the book it's self.

R.A. Salvatore wrote Vector Prime, Admiral Young. The only NJO book Stover wrote was Traitor.
 
But, just curious, what species would you have preferred Plageuis to be?

If it had to be an alien, the Chiss would be a good choice, because they look human but badass (blue skin, black hair, red eyes) so they're relatable but intimidating. They had an ancient grudge against the Republic, they've allied with the Sith before, they're great strategists who play the long game like Plageuis and Palpatine, and it would provide a further means of connection between Palpatine and Thrawn besides their collaboration in the Outbound Flight incident. One of Dooku's acolytes was even Chiss.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chiss

I'm personally happy they made him an alien, another Human would have been boring, IMO. A Chiss would have been excellent.
 
If it had to be an alien, the Chiss would be a good choice, because they look human but badass (blue skin, black hair, red eyes) so they're relatable but intimidating. They had an ancient grudge against the Republic, they've allied with the Sith before, they're great strategists who play the long game like Plageuis and Palpatine, and it would provide a further means of connection between Palpatine and Thrawn besides their collaboration in the Outbound Flight incident. One of Dooku's acolytes was even Chiss.
Ugh. I really wish that the Chiss had been ignore pre-Thrawn - his story doesn't work when there's a bunch of Chiss around and Parck should've been able to just look up his species in the library computer!

My first choice for dramatic irony would be a member of Yoda's race, actually. Assuming that's verboten... probably Mon Cal or Sullustan. Something less humanoid and typically associated with the Rebels rather than Empire. :)
 
A Hutt would have been sweet. Especially since there was like only one EU instance of a Force-sensitive Hutt and they're expected to be incapable of Jedi/Sith antics.

"Yah tay so Dark Side! Oo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Ha-ha-ha-ha!"

Or something completely fucked up and alien-looking, some unique, Cthulhu-like monstrosity, something that could stand next to OT Yoda as a one-shot mystery species. Then you tell the story completely from Palpatine's perspective, never getting into Plageuis' head.

I'm kind of meh on Luceno (His prequel stuff is decent, but his post OT stuff: Hero's Trial, Jedi Eclipse, Unifying Force & Millennium Falcon all blew to one degree or another). I'll check this out cause its on the PT side of things.

Cover is fair. The Munn looks interesting, I guess, but Palps is off. Kind of reminds me of some of those OT EU covers where none of the Heroes of Yavin look like the artist had a picture of the actors in costume to go from or, you know, any idea how to accurately draw the human form. He's not that bad, but close.
 
If it had to be an alien, the Chiss would be a good choice, because they look human but badass (blue skin, black hair, red eyes) so they're relatable but intimidating. They had an ancient grudge against the Republic, they've allied with the Sith before, they're great strategists who play the long game like Plageuis and Palpatine, and it would provide a further means of connection between Palpatine and Thrawn besides their collaboration in the Outbound Flight incident. One of Dooku's acolytes was even Chiss.
Ugh. I really wish that the Chiss had been ignore pre-Thrawn - his story doesn't work when there's a bunch of Chiss around and Parck should've been able to just look up his species in the library computer!

Exactly. Chiss were supposed to be a more or less unknown species. In this sense, Sev'rance Tann was kind of an oversight.

EDIT: Just ran across this:
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THIS STORY IS CANON! The backstory of Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious was developed hand-in-glove with the highest authorities at Lucasfilm, to ensure that nothing contradicts George Lucas's vision of his creations!
 
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If it had to be an alien, the Chiss would be a good choice, because they look human but badass (blue skin, black hair, red eyes) so they're relatable but intimidating. They had an ancient grudge against the Republic, they've allied with the Sith before, they're great strategists who play the long game like Plageuis and Palpatine, and it would provide a further means of connection between Palpatine and Thrawn besides their collaboration in the Outbound Flight incident. One of Dooku's acolytes was even Chiss.
Ugh. I really wish that the Chiss had been ignore pre-Thrawn - his story doesn't work when there's a bunch of Chiss around and Parck should've been able to just look up his species in the library computer!

Well, that ship has kinda sailed and there's nothing that can be done to prevent their use in other EU stories now. However, I don't think that effects the viability of one of them being a dark lord of the Sith who is operating in secret from the Jedi and the Republic before Palpatine reveals their return anyway.
 
As if the whole thing about Chiss being relatively unknown in Thrawn's trilogy wasn't already screwed up enough, players can play a Chiss character in the upcoming The Old Republic MMO, set three thousand years before the Thrawn trilogy. :lol:
 
That's not big a deal. They could have well been known three thousand years in the past and just not known in the Republic/Empire time. Lots of things could have happened to make them not have contact with the galaxy at large...like isolation due to political reasons, etc.
 
I think it looks pretty damn cool and the book comes out a day before my birthday too!

http://www.starwars.com/vault/books/darthplagueis/index.html

Now THAT is how you do cover art.

Young Palpatine looks a little like TPM Obi-Wan.

David Filoni, Lucas's go to guy for Clone Wars has said Lucas's take on General Grievious and his origin was radically different from what Luceno claimed Lucas told him as per the CW Season 1 DVD Commentaries. I think it's apparent that Luceno's credibility about what Lucas said about Grievious and probably Plagueis should be considered dubious at best and lying at worst.

I have the answer. About four or five months prior to the release of ROTS, Lucas decided to make Grievous a slimy, cowardly villain. That's why he's portrayed differently in the original Clone Wars cartoon and in the ROTS prequel book, the name of which currently escapes me. In the cartoon and the book, Grievous is portrayed as more of a scary badass while in ROTS and everything afterward, he's portrayed as a slimy villain who runs the first chance he gets. I think I read this in The Making of Revenge of the Sith book. But that is why Grievous's personality changed from his EU debut to Revenge of the Sith.

So it wasn't Luceno's fault. He worked with the portrayel of Grievous that was given to him. It was Lucas that changed it at the last minute. He can do that since he owns everything. Though I think I would have kept the early Grievous personality.
 
A Hutt would have been sweet. Especially since there was like only one EU instance of a Force-sensitive Hutt and they're expected to be incapable of Jedi/Sith antics.

"Yah tay so Dark Side! Oo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Ha-ha-ha-ha!"

Or something completely fucked up and alien-looking, some unique, Cthulhu-like monstrosity, something that could stand next to OT Yoda as a one-shot mystery species. Then you tell the story completely from Palpatine's perspective, never getting into Plageuis' head.

I'm kind of meh on Luceno (His prequel stuff is decent, but his post OT stuff: Hero's Trial, Jedi Eclipse, Unifying Force & Millennium Falcon all blew to one degree or another). I'll check this out cause its on the PT side of things.

Cover is fair. The Munn looks interesting, I guess, but Palps is off. Kind of reminds me of some of those OT EU covers where none of the Heroes of Yavin look like the artist had a picture of the actors in costume to go from or, you know, any idea how to accurately draw the human form. He's not that bad, but close.

Funny that you mentioned Cthulhu, because that's what the SW writers are aiming for with the big bad of the Fate of the Jedi series.
 
Ooops. Matthew Stover wrote Vector Prime haha. Another author who received hatred from fans after a major character's death.

Luceno saying something and the editors saying something are two very different things. Sigh. This has become too big a deal and something I didn't want to get in. This thread has morphed into something entirely different than what I wanted to discuss which was the book it's self.

R.A. Salvatore wrote Vector Prime, Admiral Young. The only NJO book Stover wrote was Traitor.


Pissed me off the way the fanboys treated Bob. He's a nice fuckin' guy!
 
Yeah. It kind of came out of no where their attacks and reaction. That character is beloved but that's no way to treat an author. I read R.A. received death threats in some cases. Not sure if that is true or not.
 
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