The Most Villlainous Person In Starfleet?
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I was going to say Admiral Nechayev, but then again, she was just a bitch.
Oh yeah, she is that...
Remember that Admiral that bailed Ensign Roe out of prison, made a deal with the Cardassians and ordered Picard to step aside and let a ship of poor Bajoran refugees be blown away by the them, so they could be satisfied?
Or the Admiral that went nuts and tried to accuse everyone on board the Enterprise of treason, conspiracy or sabotage?
Or the one that tried to rip Lal, Data's daughter, from him without his consent, so she could be taught social skills by the state?
Man, a lot of these Admirals are a--holes, lol.
Still Cartwright has to be the top one-he conspired to commit murder-and this one was head of Starfleet it seems.
Or the Admiral that went nuts and tried to accuse everyone on board the Enterprise of treason, conspiracy or sabotage?
Or the one that tried to rip Lal, Data's daughter, from him without his consent, so she could be taught social skills by the state?
Man, a lot of these Admirals are a--holes, lol.
Still Cartwright has to be the top one-he conspired to commit murder-and this one was head of Starfleet it seems.
I would probably say Captain Ransom, cruelly torturing innocent sentient lifeforms for his own gain.
Most of the others that have been suggested are understandable from certain perspectives.
Though if main characters were included, I would have to say Kirk. How many sexual harrassment claims would he be facing?
Most of the others that have been suggested are understandable from certain perspectives.
Though if main characters were included, I would have to say Kirk. How many sexual harrassment claims would he be facing?
Its an easy mistake to make, most people consider Cartwright, Commander Starfleet because he filled the role that Robert Hooks was supposed to return to (Admiral Morrow in TVH. We could assume that Cartwright was the highest ranking officer on Earth during the Whale Probe crisis. And by the time TUC rolled around, Admiral Bill had succeeded Admiral Morrow as the C in C.
"Admiral" Kathryn Janeway
Though if main characters were included, I would have to say Kirk. How many sexual harrassment claims would he be facing?
Have you actually watched Star Trek?
Janeway, Archer and Neelix.
Hrm.
Definitley need to consider Ransom, who was, as said, torturing and murdering an intelligent species just to get home, and left Voyager for dead when they were attacked.
Also, the dude who tried to stage a military coup of the federation during the Dominion crisis (but...wasn't he a changeling...in which case he doesn't count..)
but I'd have to go with Ross and Sisko - they colloborated with Garak to falsify evidence in order to bring a neutral race into a war. Thousands of Rommies must have died because of them, when, they had a non-aggression pact with the Dominion.
Or maybe Harry Kim, just for being a dick.
Definitley need to consider Ransom, who was, as said, torturing and murdering an intelligent species just to get home, and left Voyager for dead when they were attacked.
Also, the dude who tried to stage a military coup of the federation during the Dominion crisis (but...wasn't he a changeling...in which case he doesn't count..)
but I'd have to go with Ross and Sisko - they colloborated with Garak to falsify evidence in order to bring a neutral race into a war. Thousands of Rommies must have died because of them, when, they had a non-aggression pact with the Dominion.
Or maybe Harry Kim, just for being a dick.
That guy wasn't actually in Starfleet.
No, Admiral Leyton was not a changeling. A changeling did impersonate him in one scene in the episode, but Admiral Leyton was an honest flesh and blood human and the plan to stage the coup was his idea entirely.
Admiral Ross had nothing to do with the events of In the Pale Moonlight.
Shows how long it's been since I saw it!
Admiral Cartwright (TUC)
Admiral Dougherty (INS)
Admiral Leyton (DS9)
Captain Ransom (VOY)
Captain Tracy (TOS)
Captain Sisko (DS9)
From a purely moralistic point of view, Dougherty and Tracy are probably the worst of the lot. At least Cartwright, Leyton, and Sisko could claim that they tried to protect the Federation, and Ransom wanted to get his crew home alive.
Dougherty and Tracy were obsessed with immortality for some reason and were willing to kill innocent Starfleet officers over it (Dougherty, since he authorized an attack on the Enterprise in INS).
Admiral Dougherty (INS)
Admiral Leyton (DS9)
Captain Ransom (VOY)
Captain Tracy (TOS)
Captain Sisko (DS9)
From a purely moralistic point of view, Dougherty and Tracy are probably the worst of the lot. At least Cartwright, Leyton, and Sisko could claim that they tried to protect the Federation, and Ransom wanted to get his crew home alive.
Dougherty and Tracy were obsessed with immortality for some reason and were willing to kill innocent Starfleet officers over it (Dougherty, since he authorized an attack on the Enterprise in INS).
Dougherty wanted to help billions by getting the radiation and not kill the Baku in the process (hence the holoship), then got the Son'a to agree to using transporter tags instead of assault teams that could kill Baku. Arguably he chose the lesser of two evils by sending them after the Enterprise.
And I'm pretty sure Tracy was kind of crazy after seeing his crew dissolve into salt. Him trying to figure out the immortality thing on that planet was probably his way of trying to make the death of his crew mean something.
Still, not getting that radiation wasn't really threatening the Federation's existence. It's not like they depended on it.
On the other hand, Leyton was convinced that the Federation needed much stronger leadership to survive the coming Dominion attack. Even if you find his methods appalling (which I do), he did have a point. Jaresh-Inyo seemed like a well-intentioned, but ultimately weak leader, especially with war on the horizon. (Alright the blood tests Leyton cherished so much turned out to be completely ineffective in the end, but they didn't really know that at that time.)
So, Dougherty did bad things for no pressing reason. That's a tad worse IMO.
And Cartwright... I guess what makes him really look extreme is that he agreed to assassinate his own president in the end. Killing the Klingon Chancellor is one thing, since he saw the Klingons as the Federation's most dangerous enemy anyway. But even Leyton refused to kill his president. Sure, we don't know what exactly was going on behind the scenes. Maybe Chang blackmailed Cartwright to continue with the plan or something after the Gorkon assassination.
Admiral Leyton. Nobody else actually tried to overthrow the Federation government and install himself as a dictator.
I'll go with Ransom.
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