WIP: LOST-YEARS ERA WARPSHUTTLE/MARINE ASSAULT SHUTTLE
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Screen-cap of the internal cross-section of the "Joseph Kerwin" class medical warpshuttle. The Mobile Critical Care Module contains 3 surgical tables, and beds for either 6 or 9 patients (depending how the other side gets arranged). All stations are capable of initiating a stasis field in case a critical patient is about to crash, or is beyond the capabilities of the MCCU. This is still a WIP.
Ooooh, I *like* that!
Thanks. Happy to contribute. However, I must stand corrected. Kerwin was not the first medical doctor to fly in space. It was Boris Yegorov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Yegorov) on the 1964 Voskhod I flight, pre-dating Kerwin's flight on Skylab by about nine years. Mea culpa.
These drawings are looking great, by the way.
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So what? The Soviet Union went bankrupt in the end, and was replaced by a constitutional republic. And they never even sent any manned missions to Luna, as far as I know. Now Russia is beating us in commercial spaceflight for now, but at least it isn't communist Russia.
And I think we have a bunch of good names for shuttlecrafts. Robert Jarvik, Joseph Kerwin, and Boris Yegorov all sound like good names, and you can never be sure how many medical evac shuttles you'll need for a starbase!
And as for the name of the class, most shuttles to my knowledge don't have a name, but a class number. Though it most certainly can have a class name, and in the case of runabouts (which I think Scott1768 said this is supposed to be), a class name would most certainly be appropriate. Though I see a type of shuttle and a bunch of variants. The variants don't necessarily have to have names (they could go by MedVac variant, Assault variant, etc.), though it would be a nice touch, and if you feel it is appropriate, then by all means, choose a name for each variant.
And I think we have a bunch of good names for shuttlecrafts. Robert Jarvik, Joseph Kerwin, and Boris Yegorov all sound like good names, and you can never be sure how many medical evac shuttles you'll need for a starbase!
And as for the name of the class, most shuttles to my knowledge don't have a name, but a class number. Though it most certainly can have a class name, and in the case of runabouts (which I think Scott1768 said this is supposed to be), a class name would most certainly be appropriate. Though I see a type of shuttle and a bunch of variants. The variants don't necessarily have to have names (they could go by MedVac variant, Assault variant, etc.), though it would be a nice touch, and if you feel it is appropriate, then by all means, choose a name for each variant.
At this point, I'm mostly finished with the primary views. I have to add shading on the 2nd and 3rd page for that 3D look, and some details to the internal plan.
I still have 2 more sheets to finish. One will show the internal arrangements of a number of different mission modules, and the other will show profile views of the WS-07 in a number of different configurations (ambulance, passenger shuttle, cargo shuttle, private executive shuttle, etc.)
As usual, any comments criticisms, suggestions or requests are welcome.
I still have 2 more sheets to finish. One will show the internal arrangements of a number of different mission modules, and the other will show profile views of the WS-07 in a number of different configurations (ambulance, passenger shuttle, cargo shuttle, private executive shuttle, etc.)
As usual, any comments criticisms, suggestions or requests are welcome.
A suggestion, then...I still have 2 more sheets to finish. One will show the internal arrangements of a number of different mission modules, and the other will show profile views of the WS-07 in a number of different configurations (ambulance, passenger shuttle, cargo shuttle, private executive shuttle, etc.)
As usual, any comments criticisms, suggestions or requests are welcome.
You've done multiple sheets showing multiple different pods installed, yes?
But... have you done a sheet showing JUST the pod? Or have you done a sheet showing the basic ship without a pod installed? (For that matter, is the shuttle flight-worthy without a pod present? It seems that it probably is, albeit you'd want to avoid flying too fast through an atmosphere without shields.)
I think both of those are things you should seriously consider adding to the mix. A full print showing all sides of an unmounted pod, and a full print showing the interior of the "pod bay" mounting.
Just my 2cents...
Thanks for the input, Cary. Actually, sheet 4 *will* be a detail sheet for the modules. I may have to expand it to 2 sheets, depending upon how detailed I get.
I actually hadn't thought of your idea of showing the shuttle sans module, but I think that's a good idea. I'll have to figure out a way to include something like that.
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So, I'm adding a sheet to the set of warpshuttle plans showing it in various configurations - ambulance, cargo, etc. One of them is STARFLEET ONE.
Some of you may think that the UFP President's diplomatic craft should be huge like a dreadnought or something. I think the Federation would be cool enough that its President would have to compensate for a small...planet...with a huge ship.
As far as defense is concerned, she would always be accompanied by a squadron of fighters, plus, just out of sight, a small task force of starships.
Thoughts? ideas? *Constructive* criticisms? :-)
Some of you may think that the UFP President's diplomatic craft should be huge like a dreadnought or something. I think the Federation would be cool enough that its President would have to compensate for a small...planet...with a huge ship.
As far as defense is concerned, she would always be accompanied by a squadron of fighters, plus, just out of sight, a small task force of starships.
Thoughts? ideas? *Constructive* criticisms? :-)
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Well, there's Air Force One, which is fairly large Boeing 747, but you also see the President of the US in Marine One, which is a much smaller helicopter. So, I would see this as the "helicopter" of the equation which would be carried on whichever larger vessel that is transporting the Federation President from place to place.
Well, there's Air Force One, which is fairly large Boeing 747, but you also see the President of the US in Marine One, which is a much smaller helicopter. So, I would see this as the "helicopter" of the equation which would be carried on whichever larger vessel that is transporting the Federation President from place to place.
I would agree on most points except for the fighters and Task Force escort.
Which I guess is all points.
Tactically speaking a shuttle on a diplomatic visit wouldn't ever be outside the tactical sphere of it's supporting starships, so it wouldn't need a fighter escort.
As for a task force escort, why escort the shuttle when a starship can carry it? On whole it would be far more secure that way.
This does not suppose that there wouldn't be a diplomatic vessel dedicated to the Perident's use, but I suspect it would be a larger craft. I don't say it wouldn't be a support craft like this one, just that it would be a bigger support craft.
There is a reason Air Force One is big aircraft, and it isn't show the size of United States' collective penis. It's is to carry all of the basic support the President needs on the move (Staff, security detail, and press). Air Force one is usually accompanied by another cargo aircraft with more security and the the limo.
I'm not saying that "Starfleet One" would need to fulfill these requirements. In fact, that would probably be better left to the starship supporting it. But if it were tasked to do these things it would be a bit bigger.
At this size it seems like it would be less like Air Force One and more like the Presidential Limousine. From that stand point I don't think it would need much in the way of escorts given that it should have one of more full starships supporting it.
Which I guess is all points.
Tactically speaking a shuttle on a diplomatic visit wouldn't ever be outside the tactical sphere of it's supporting starships, so it wouldn't need a fighter escort.
As for a task force escort, why escort the shuttle when a starship can carry it? On whole it would be far more secure that way.
This does not suppose that there wouldn't be a diplomatic vessel dedicated to the Perident's use, but I suspect it would be a larger craft. I don't say it wouldn't be a support craft like this one, just that it would be a bigger support craft.
There is a reason Air Force One is big aircraft, and it isn't show the size of United States' collective penis. It's is to carry all of the basic support the President needs on the move (Staff, security detail, and press). Air Force one is usually accompanied by another cargo aircraft with more security and the the limo.
I'm not saying that "Starfleet One" would need to fulfill these requirements. In fact, that would probably be better left to the starship supporting it. But if it were tasked to do these things it would be a bit bigger.
At this size it seems like it would be less like Air Force One and more like the Presidential Limousine. From that stand point I don't think it would need much in the way of escorts given that it should have one of more full starships supporting it.
So, I'm adding a sheet to the set of warpshuttle plans showing it in various configurations - ambulance, cargo, etc. One of them is STARFLEET ONE.
Some of you may think that the UFP President's diplomatic craft should be huge like a dreadnought or something. I think the Federation would be cool enough that its President would have to compensate for a small...planet...with a huge ship.
As far as defense is concerned, she would always be accompanied by a squadron of fighters, plus, just out of sight, a small task force of starships.
Thoughts? ideas? *Constructive* criticisms? :-)
OK, first of all, I really like this design. I guess my question or "constructive criticism" would concern the windows in the aft section, just above the nacelles. Would or would not that area be needed for the impulse engines and/or engine room? I only ask because for some reason, this is the one and only image of your design I am able to view. However, I think the design, and especially the paint scheme are very cool for a "presidential" shuttle. :-)
Ahhhhh, after 4 page refreshes (this site gives me issues sometimes) I'm finally able to view your other images. I love them. But, for the sake of "engineering reality", my previous question stands. Outstanding design work, nonetheless. :-)
Ro,
Thanks for the compliments. This pic should clear up your questions, I believe. They are of the MICU variant, but the basic design philosophy is the same.
The impulse engines are mounted in the warp nacelle support pylons (the red areas in the aft view). If you look at the cockpit in the plan view, you will see a station at the port aft area. This is the Ship Systems Monitor station. That's as close to an engine room as this warpshuttle gets.
really like the design, but might I make one point; starfleet one. that just seems overly american to me (yes, I know the show is american, but it has been a big promoter of diversity as well). I'm perfectly happy about designing a diplomatic vessel for the president, and even the paint scheme isn't too bad (it's just a big blue stripe really, and the federation is often associated with the colour blue anyway...), but borrowing the exact same nomenclature? to me anyway it makes the federation seem not just a "homo sapiens only club", but an Americans only one as well
I actually thought about that, but I figured that if it's good enough for Babylon 5 (Earth Force 1), it's good enough for me! Besides, even the Klingons who were complaining about a "homo-sapiens only club" were riding in Kronos 1.
