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eeg! 51-year-old actor marries a 16-year-old girl

Joseph didn't seem to mind getting married to Mary, and she was almost 14 while he was about 41. :shrug:

You know, I meant to be taking a break from posting for a couple more days, but couldn't help responding to this. I'm wondering where you get Joseph being about 41?
 
Joseph didn't seem to mind getting married to Mary, and she was almost 14 while he was about 41. :shrug:

You know, I meant to be taking a break from posting for a couple more days, but couldn't help responding to this. I'm wondering where you get Joseph being about 41?

It's my best guesstimate. The Catholic church's stance is that Joseph was a man in his 90s, which I do not accept. Jesus had brothers and sisters (though, again, the Catholic church insists he had only "cousins"), so a man in his 90s siring children, as well as being an able bodied carpenter, isn't very likely (though, I guess, possible).

The likelihood is that Joseph was a man of middle age, since he was an established tradesman, sired several sons and daughters over his lifetime, but was never heard from again by the time of Jesus' first recorded miracles during the Wedding at Cana, a span of approximately 18 years (we last hear of Joseph when Jesus is 12. The Wedding at Cana takes place around the time Jesus turned 30).

A rough age of 40/41 is a reasonable stance to take (IMO anyway), as a middle aged man's lifespan could have occurred in the 30 year time frame, but if Joseph was a young man, his death would have been early, and surely there would have been mention of it in the canonical texts, the earthly father of Jesus dying a young death.

So it's just a guess of mine, but I think it's as close as we'll ever get to knowing for certain.
 
Why are we worried about Joseph? God knocked her up...he is as old as time! :p
 
Don't most ancient societies consider 12/13 being an adult?

We're not talking about legal standards, we're talking about the drastic difference between ages in relation to the growth and development of each person involved in the relationship. The general objection is that she's too young at age 16 to be married, partially due to physiological and mental development.
 
Don't quote me on this but I remember seeing that the brain doesn't fully develop until 25? Either way I made way better decisions when I was a teen than when I was in my early to mid twenties...if I could only have stayed that kid. :(
 
Don't most ancient societies consider 12/13 being an adult?

No, from what I have read a girl wasn't usually considered an adult until after the menarche which occurred at a later age in the past than it does now. I believe that in 18th century Europe the menarche occurred around 16-17 years of age.
 
Don't most ancient societies consider 12/13 being an adult?

No, from what I have read a girl wasn't usually considered an adult until after the menarche which occurred at a later age in the past than it does now. I believe that in 18th century Europe the menarche occurred around 16-17 years of age.

I will say when my great grand parents got married...I am guessing early 1900's...she was 13 and he was 26...they stayed married until he died(late 80's). :(
 
Well my own personal response to this is that its all very weird and creepy on the 51 year olds part.....the 16 year old wont know any better at that age.
 
No one should get married at 16. Why can't they just have sex, without legal entanglements, like normal people? Maybe that's not legal sans marriage in their state. It's legal in mine
It's legal here as well. Age of consent in Italy is 14, and age for marriage is 18 (16 with court consent).

It seems quite a bit schizofrenic to have the age of consent higher than the age for marriage... :wtf:
 
^Hey, it's the US...just the amount of different legal systems and laws makes me dizzy.

I kinda like that the biggest thing i take from this thread is...Doug Hutchison is 51, really? He does not look that old.
 
Would anyone give a shit if they announced this news and this girl was 18 instead of 16? I wonder...
 
Would anyone give a shit if they announced this news and this girl was 18 instead of 16? I wonder...

Large age differences always make headlines and make people uncomfortable. Ultimately it's about the two individuals, though I really find it difficult to believe that this will turn out well. But hey, it's legal and it is their lives.

I would have a different attitude if this were someone I knew personally, but then I would probably also have better knowledge of the situation as well.
 
Would anyone give a shit if they announced this news and this girl was 18 instead of 16? I wonder...

Though it isn't quite the same, people thought it was wrong when Wende Doohan had a baby at 43. Some of the comments made about it were that there was too big an age difference between Wende and James Doohan in the first place (she was 18, her 54 when they married), that it was irresponsible for him to become a father when he was almost 80 (the baby was totally unplanned) and some people laughed that he was still having sex at his age.
 
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