Reused sets in the TOS movies

[JonnyQuest037]

A ton of sets were built for ST:TMP and many of them were reused in the subsequent movies. I know that ST:TMP's Klingon Bridge became TWOK's photon torpedo room and the set for Kirk's quarters was reused in TWOK, but are there any other examples?

It seems strange to me that the huge rec room set from ST:TMP didn't find its way into any of the other movies. Was it struck after ST:TMP or was it one of the "fold and hold" sets?

 

[Expo67]

I believe the set was struck after the scenes were shot inside of it. Which is a shame, because I would have liked to have seen that set in the remaining films. The Original Series films that is.

Walter Koenig's diary about the production(Chekov's Enterprise)gives more detail about the set and the scenes filmed.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I believe the set was struck after the scenes were shot inside of it. Which is a shame, because I would have liked to have seen that set in the remaining films. The Original Series films that is.

That makes sense, considering the sheer amount of soundstage space it must have taken up. I agree that would've been interesting to see it again. Same with the Officer's Lounge from the Kirk, Spock and McCoy "sit down" scene.

Walter Koenig's diary about the production(Chekov's Enterprise)gives more detail about the set and the scenes filmed.

Good thought. I'll take a look at my copy.

 

[Christopher]

The TMP rec deck was dismantled after its one big scene, probably to make room for the V'Ger set, which was filmed on the same soundstage (Paramount Stage 8). Portions of the rec deck set were used to construct the officer's lounge set when the production lacked the time and/or budget to construct it as originally designed (and seen in miniature when Spock's shuttle approaches).

Most of the TMP Enterprise sets on Stage 9 were reused in TWOK, with some modifications (like adding the dilithium chamber to engineering). TSFS didn't seem to use much beyond the bridge, crew quarters, and corridors, as far as I can recall. I don't think TVH used anything except the bridge in the final scene, unless some of the Starfleet or Vulcan sets were redresses of the Stage 9 sets. (The Klingon BoP set was probably wherever it had been in the previous film, possibly Stage 10, since that's reportedly where the Klingon bridge set was built for Phase II.)

Of course, in 1987 the Stage 9 sets were heavily altered for TNG, so when they appeared in TFF and TUC, they were recognizably TNG sets redressed for the movies. Engineering suddenly had a TNG-style warp core, the observation lounge was clearly the TNG version on Stage 8 even though its windows didn't fit the E-A, the President's office was a redress of Ten Forward (also on Stage 8), etc.

More info on the soundstages and sets here: http://pat.suwalski.net/film/st-stages/

 

[JonnyQuest037]

(The Klingon BoP set was probably wherever it had been in the previous film, possibly Stage 10, since that's reportedly where the Klingon bridge set was built for Phase II.)

That's interesting. I had no idea that the Klingon bridge was originally built for Phase II. I'd always assumed they'd only worked on sets for the Enterprise.

More info on the soundstages and sets here: http://pat.suwalski.net/film/st-stages/

Neat site! Thanks for posting the link!

 

[Harvey]

Part of the Klingon bridge set from TMP also shows up as the transporter room on Regula I in TWOK.

 

[Galileo7]

TSFS didn't seem to use much beyond the bridge, crew quarters, and corridors, as far as I can recall.

TSFS also reused the TWOK's photon torpedo room for the scene when they arrive inside the Spacedock and are greeted in this set by the Admiral.

 

[Therin of Andor]

TSFS also reused the TWOK's photon torpedo room for the scene when they arrive inside the Spacedock and are greeted in this set by the Admiral.

I love the irony of ST IV, where the distinctive panels above of the Klingon library computer, used by resurrected-Spock, to research whales, are the same panels used in the reactor room, where Spock died two movies earlier.

Also, another favourite: the "Star Wars" bar full of exotic aliens in ST III, where McCoy tries to buy passage to the Genesis planet, is a thinly-disguised Enterprise sickbay.

 

[Indysolo]

The room on the Klingon ship in Trek IV where they ID the sounds of the humpback whales is a re-dress of the dilithium chamber set from Trek II. You can recognize the monitors.

The control panel the camera moves in on after Spock nerve pinches the guy in airlock 4 in TMP shows up in the torpedo room in Trek II, just next to the airlock.

Neil

 

[Christopher]

I love the irony of ST IV, where the distinctive panels above of the Klingon library computer, used by resurrected-Spock, to research whales, are the same panels used in the reactor room, where Spock died two movies earlier.

The room on the Klingon ship in Trek IV where they ID the sounds of the humpback whales is a re-dress of the dilithium chamber set from Trek II. You can recognize the monitors.

Actually, the monitors you're both referring to were originally from the Klingon bridge set in TMP. You can sort of see them along the back wall here:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0031.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0032.jpg

Although they're clearest on the Klingon bridge plans in the David Kimble/Lee Cole TMP blueprint set. The hexagonal shape of the monitors is the giveaway that they're meant to be a Klingon design.

Now, it does seem to be true that the Bounty science lab is a redress of the TWOK reactor chamber, since it has the same basic configuration overall, not just the monitors:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twok/ch14/twok1105.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvh/ch5/tvh0236.jpg

But the monitors in the reactor room were cannibalized from the TMP Amar bridge, so TVH essentially restored them to their original function as Klingon equipment.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Interesting. I didn't know about the reactor room/whale room redress.

 

[Ryann866]

I love the irony of ST IV, where the distinctive panels above of the Klingon library computer, used by resurrected-Spock, to research whales, are the same panels used in the reactor room, where Spock died two movies earlier.

The room on the Klingon ship in Trek IV where they ID the sounds of the humpback whales is a re-dress of the dilithium chamber set from Trek II. You can recognize the monitors.

Actually, the monitors you're both referring to were originally from the Klingon bridge set in TMP. You can sort of see them along the back wall here:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0031.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmphd/tmphd0032.jpg

Although they're clearest on the Klingon bridge plans in the David Kimble/Lee Cole TMP blueprint set. The hexagonal shape of the monitors is the giveaway that they're meant to be a Klingon design.

Now, it does seem to be true that the Bounty science lab is a redress of the TWOK reactor chamber, since it has the same basic configuration overall, not just the monitors:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/twok/ch14/twok1105.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvh/ch5/tvh0236.jpg

But the monitors in the reactor room were cannibalized from the TMP Amar bridge, so TVH essentially restored them to their original function as Klingon equipment.

Those walls (originally from the back of TMP Klingon bridge set) were used for years on TNG as all sorts of bridges - Ferengi, Romulan,and back to Klingon again, sometimes turned upside down and repainted:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x10/battle116.jpg

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s4/4x26/redemptionpartone214.jpg

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Dderidex-engineering.jpg

Here's a behind the scenes pic where you can see the back of the set in the background of this special effect shoot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alba/3811117272/in/set-72157622007016548/

Also, in other TVH weirdness, the bop transporter room seemed to be built out of the doorway to engineering built for TMP:
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvhhd/tvhhd1513.jpg

 

[David cgc]

The Enterprise sickbay (or, at least, one wall of it) was redressed as the compartment where McCoy has a heart-to-heart with Spock's body at the end of TSFS.

 

[Maurice]

There was a Klingon bridge set planned for Phase II but I don't believe it was built. The Klingon bridge for TMP has designed by Andy Probert for TMP specifically, and was shot months after principle photography wrapped.

Here's my accounting of the sets from TMP and how they were used in other films. I don't claim this is 100% accurate, but it's a fair accounting based on what I've read/seen. I'm only going to take this as far as TVH because after that most of the sets get heavily modified for TNG.

Bridge

TMP
TWOK (Enterprise and Reliant)
TSFS (Enterprise and Grissom)
TVH (Enterprise and Saratoga and Yorktown)​

Corridors

TMP
TWOK (Enterprise and Reliant)
TSFS​

Captain's Cabin

TMP (Kirk's and Ilia's)
TWOK (Kirk's and Spock's)
TSFS (Spock's)​

Transporter

TMP
TWOK
TSFS​

Engineering

TMP
TWOK (modified with reactor room) (Enterprise and Reliant)
TSFS (part of it was used for the Excelsior room as Scotty meets Styles)​

Sickbay

TMP
TWOK
TSFS (ward redressed to be bar where McCoy goes, other area becomes Klingon sickbay)​

Rec Deck

TMP (demolished)​

Officer's Lounge

TMP (rebuild of Rec Deck)​

Command Airlock

TMP (parts possibly cannibalized for Airlock 4 and/or cargo deck)​

Airlock 4

TMP
TWOK (parts cannibalized for torpedo bay)​

Cargo Deck

TMP (built from walls constructed for Admiral Nogura's office for phase II)
​

Klingon Bridge

TMP
TWOK forward 2/3rds as torpedo bay, rear section as radiation room, helm console used as Regula 1 transporter console
TSFS forward 2/3rds as torpedo bay, then as corridor outside BOP bridge, rear 1/3rd turned into BOP bridge (note beams)
TVH rear section used in Bird of Prey​

Wingwalk

TMP (demolished)​

V'ger

TMP (demolished)​

Epsilon 9

TMP​

Space office complex

TMP​

Starfleet Command

TMP (demolished)​

Vulcan

TMP Location set (demolished)
TMP Tank set (demolished)​

Travel Pod

TMP
TWOK
TVH​

 

[JonnyQuest037]

You know, now that I think of it, it's kind of strange that the makers of TSFS didn't just return the Klingon Bridge set to its original configuration for STIII. It seems like the TMP Klingon bridge could have worked for the movie just fine.

 

[Christopher]

You know, now that I think of it, it's kind of strange that the makers of TSFS didn't just return the Klingon Bridge set to its original configuration for STIII. It seems like the TMP Klingon bridge could have worked for the movie just fine.

There are a lot of possible reasons why they would've changed it. One is simply that different directors, cinematographers, production designers, etc. would make different choices simply by virtue of being different people, as is their prerogative. Another might be that the first use of the set revealed problems that were then fixed by the redesign. Another is that the set had to be used far more extensively in TSFS and the original configuration might not have allowed the same range of camera setups, or perhaps might've slowed down shooting on that set and cost them time and money they couldn't afford.

And of course it could be easily justified since the two bridges belong to different classes of ship.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I realize all that, of course. It's just that the TMP Klingon bridge was my favorite of the ones they showed us, so I think it would've been nice for them to use it again.

 

[Galileo7]

It's just that the TMP Klingon bridge was my favorite of the ones they showed us, so I think it would've been nice for them to use it again.

Agreed.

 

[Maurice]

It's just that the TMP Klingon bridge was my favorite of the ones they showed us, so I think it would've been nice for them to use it again.

Agreed.

I think it would have seemed awfully large for such a small ship.

 

[Basill]

Captain's Cabin

TMP (Kirk's and Ilia's)
TWOK (Kirk's and Spock's)
TSFS (Spock's)​

TSFS- The bunk was also seen as Captain Style's cabin aboard Excelsior.