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Wonder Woman(NBC) *Spoilers!*

CaptainCanada said:
Wonder Woman's primary value to her owners is as a merchandising symbol on stuff sold to little girls, so there's no way they'd make her a lesbian (at least as things stand right now; maybe in 50 years if the gay civil rights movement continues to advance apace).
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Well, if they want to remain cowards in order to keep selling grade-school backpacks, that's their right; but so long as they do, I refuse to pretend that their failure to get any kind of live-action Wonder Woman project off the ground is any kind of surprise.

<Plinkett voice> It might have been enough to just show a woman being strong and throwing a punch in the '70s, but we almost got ourselves a dick-free president last election! White-bread hetero Wonder Woman don't excite people no more.

She'll play the Jean Grey/Black Widow role in a Justice League movie, is all.
 
Actually, before the bubble burst, and the price was so low that even children could buy comics, and they were still sold on the newsstands, comics that were failures still sold hundreds of thousands of issues a month.


The following issue (written by Peter David) touched on the subject:
Justice League Task Force #8
Maxima: "Amazons had no men around for centuries. How did you handle that?"
Wonder Woman: [pause] "All I'll say is... we don't call it 'Paradise Island' for nothing."


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Guy Gardener said:
They outted Wonder Woman as a lesbian in the comics 20 years ago.

Justice League Taskforce.
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So have we seen her in an actual relationship with a woman or was it just talked about? I'm not trying to be pervy here, I'm just curious.
 
There was 30 fabulous issues of will they won't they between JLA 60 something and 90something, finalizing with a double sized what-if machine cranked up to "WTF" depicting about 10 or so mirror universe short stories about how their relationship might have wound up.


Here's a scan of the throwawy line by wonder woman about how she likes girls, which I posted on the page before this already

the Amazons have been on that island from between 5 to 3 thousand years depending which origin you value. No men. LESBIANS! Now Wonder Woman on the other hand is only as old as she looks. Possibly 30. A three-thousand year old is not going to fuck the teen age daughter, 20 something daughter or their best friend and boss who has the legal right to crucify them.

With the scant possibility of a passing god, Diana must have still been a virgin when she left paradise island, however, everyone she knew and every rolemodel she had was a lesbian by default.

Then of course you have to wonder about Donna Troy, the original Wonder Girl who was a playmate they created for Diana by hacking off part of her soul (Donna Troy has had at least 40 conflicting origins.). They were the same age, and if they were the same person it would have only been masturbation anyways.
 
Dream said:
Didn't Wonder Woman and Batman date in the comics, or was that just in JLU?
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I think a WW/Batman attraction was added to the comics in emulation of what JL/U did.

But of course the comics have shown Wonder Woman/Diana being interested in many men over the years, starting with Steve Trevor and including Superman -- I recall back in the '90s there was a story in which Superman and Wonder Woman had a romantic interlude that was a rather big news item.

So naturally there's no chance of WW being exclusively lesbian; at most she'd be bisexual. I recall a recent story in which Diana was in a rather serious relationship with Nemesis and wanted to join with him in an Amazon engagement or marriage ceremony, and it was pointed out (at least obliquely) that such a ceremony would normally be between two women. I think it was implied that Diana had not been entirely chaste when living among the Amazons.
 
So this is canceled:borg:? Typical:rolleyes:
I was really looking forward of watching this:)
Is this now totally over..or is there still hope that we will see this somewhere else in the near future?!??
 
JRS said:
So this is canceled:borg:? Typical:rolleyes:
I was really looking forward of watching this:)
Is this now totally over..or is there still hope that we will see this somewhere else in the near future?!??
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i am curious to see this failed pilot. With this new "on demand" era, why can't we see previous failed pilots?
 
JRS said:
So this is canceled:borg:? Typical:rolleyes:
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No, it wasn't cancelled, because no series was ever commissioned in the first place. Only a pilot was made, and NBC passed on it, as they passed on multiple other pilots this year including Ron Moore's 17th Precinct, three other dramas, and half a dozen sitcoms.


Is this now totally over..or is there still hope that we will see this somewhere else in the near future?!??
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Well, every other network already rejected the Wonder Woman project before NBC reconsidered and commissioned a pilot. So the odds are slim.
 
A Bruce and Diana relationship was hinted at and teased during Joe Kelly's run on JLA. It was put to an end in JLA#90 (which was probably one of the strongest issues of his run) where it was depicted as as series of future vignettes that ended in tragedy (there is some kind of dream machine used). In reality Bruce and Diana both decide to remain friends and joke that if they ever did get together that it would probably end up as a Greek tragedy. I liked the issue so much that I actually bought it. The cover is all white and features Bruce's gloved gauntlet interlocked with Diana's hand.

This kind of ran parallel with what was being shown in JLU.


BTW...is there any reason for this thread to remain open? It doesn't look like this will be shown any time soon anywhere else. There's really nothing else to discuss about it IMO.
 
^Huh? Non sequitur. I was referring to the comics character and her relationship history. I wasn't referring to some hypothetical change in some future screen adaptation or something, I was saying that, if Dream was asking whether there was any evidence that WW had a history of heterosexuality in the comics, the answer is an overwhelming yes. She's routinely been shown to be interested in men, so she's either heterosexual or bisexual, not exclusively lesbian.
 
In fairness, Joss Whedon managed to turn one of his characters from bog-standard heterosexual into lesbian with almost nobody batting an eye, so it's not as though somebody couldn't come along and make a sweeping proclamation.
 
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