It's 1969, I'm 6 years old...

[StCoop]

...and I'm watching the Moon Landing. Mummy and Daddy aren't in the room at the moment but I suddenly notice that a scary looking man in a dark suit is there. Normally if something like this was to happen I'd scream and run away but instead I feel an overwhelming compulsion to kill the Scary Man instead.

That's odd, the Scary Man is doing something strange with his mouth. Even odder, I don't think he even had a mouth a few seconds ago.

Now I'm starting to feel really strange. There's all this pressure building up inside me like I'm a balloon that's about to pop.

And now I'm having this vision of a skinny young man with a bow tie who's celebrating the success of yet another brilliant plan to save the Earth.

Pop.

 

[Canadave]

Sorry, what? I have no idea what the point you're trying to make here is.

 

[backstept]

Sorry, what? I have no idea what the point you're trying to make here is.

apparently you haven't seen the recent Doctor Who episodes

 

[Canadave]

^ I have, but I'm just not sure what the point StCoop is trying to make about them is.

 

[Tom]

Just have a little fun.. so that's reason STcoop acts strange..lol

 

[Satyrquaze]

I don't think there was one. All the OP does is awknowledge that they saw the episode.

 

[Psion]

The idea is that the Doctor just caused the death of six-year-old StCoop by planting the idea in his head that he should kill the big scary guy who throws lightning bolts.

I'd counter that by wondering what the population density of Silence on Earth was in 1969, and where they preferred to hang out. It looked like they preferred their own company to that of humans and that they'd rest in those bivouacs we saw in the tunnels and the orphanage. So I'd tend to doubt they were in every home. They probably tended to walk amongst the powerful and the elite to influence them, and thus, humanity's actions.

But ... StCoop's scenario must have happened here and there.

 

[Karnbeln]

A whole bar full of people may be able to kill a Silent, and River Song may be able to kill a bunch of them, but most people who try to kill a Silent would be killed in the process. Not only can this kid not overpower the Silent, but anyone going one on one with one would be destroyed by the powers the episode established they had. The Doctor has just ordered many humans to their deaths. That's his point.

 

[StCoop]

A whole bar full of people may be able to kill a Silent, and River Song may be able to kill a bunch of them, but most people who try to kill a Silent would be killed in the process. Not only can this kid not overpower the Silent, but anyone going one on one with one would be destroyed by the powers the episode established they had. The Doctor has just ordered many humans to their deaths. That's his point.

Thank you!

I wasn't even trying to be obtuse.

 

[Psion]

A whole bar full of people may be able to kill a Silent, and River Song may be able to kill a bunch of them, but most people who try to kill a Silent would be killed in the process. Not only can this kid not overpower the Silent, but anyone going one on one with one would be destroyed by the powers the episode established they had. The Doctor has just ordered many humans to their deaths. That's his point.

Thank you!

I wasn't even trying to be obtuse.

Except ... I'm not sure they're able to throw those lightning bolts very fast. They don't look especially nimble, either. I think I could take one out quite easily with a chair or baseball bat or tire iron well before it could get a single shot of ka-blooey-bolt out.

Y'know, last week I thought it would be cool to make a Silent costume for Halloween this year. Now ... I think I'd be better off if I don't.

 

[StCoop]

Except ... I'm not sure they're able to throw those lightning bolts very fast. They don't look especially nimble, either. I think I could take one out quite easily with a chair or baseball bat or tire iron well before it could get a single shot of ka-blooey-bolt out.

In real life my brother watched the Moon Landing when he was four years old. How do you think he'd have managed?

As is so oftern the case, Moffat puts a "cool" idea or moment above a well thought out story. And I'm not even going to start on the whole idea of the Doctor turing children into killers in the first place...

 

[Canadave]

A whole bar full of people may be able to kill a Silent, and River Song may be able to kill a bunch of them, but most people who try to kill a Silent would be killed in the process. Not only can this kid not overpower the Silent, but anyone going one on one with one would be destroyed by the powers the episode established they had. The Doctor has just ordered many humans to their deaths. That's his point.

Thank you!

I wasn't even trying to be obtuse.

Ahh, I see. I just thought you meant the Silent was on the TV instead of in the room, hence my confusion.

 

[Davros]

A whole bar full of people may be able to kill a Silent, and River Song may be able to kill a bunch of them, but most people who try to kill a Silent would be killed in the process. Not only can this kid not overpower the Silent, but anyone going one on one with one would be destroyed by the powers the episode established they had. The Doctor has just ordered many humans to their deaths. That's his point.

They didn't seem particularly bulletproof.

 

[Psion]

Except ... I'm not sure they're able to throw those lightning bolts very fast. They don't look especially nimble, either. I think I could take one out quite easily with a chair or baseball bat or tire iron well before it could get a single shot of ka-blooey-bolt out.

In real life my brother watched the Moon Landing when he was four years old. How do you think he'd have managed?

As is so oftern the case, Moffat puts a "cool" idea or moment above a well thought out story. And I'm not even going to start on the whole idea of the Doctor turing children into killers in the first place...

And what makes you think there was a Silent in the room with your brother when the Moon landing occurred? Even in the White House, they appeared outnumbered by humans, so I doubt there's one in every cupboard.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'd also add you don't turn into a zombie person. You're driven to want to kill them, but you don't trance walk over to them. The people with guns shoot and kill because they realize they can do it. A six year old might start to instinctively plan a way to kill them and only carry it out subconsciously. He could carry it out at some future date instead.

 

[Iamnotspock]

As is so oftern the case, Moffat puts a "cool" idea or moment above a well thought out story. And I'm not even going to start on the whole idea of the Doctor turing children into killers in the first place...

OT, but that's exactly the problem I often had with RTD and it's the last charge I would generally level at Moffat. I like your point in this case though.

 

[StCoop]

I'd also add you don't turn into a zombie person. You're driven to want to kill them, but you don't trance walk over to them. The people with guns shoot and kill because they realize they can do it. A six year old might start to instinctively plan a way to kill them and only carry it out subconsciously. He could carry it out at some future date instead.

Was that is some Special Edition version of the episode? The order was "kill us all on sight" with no qualifications.

 

[timothy]

I was'nt born till 2 yrs later rats missed the landing and the doctor in the states.

 

[Starkers]

As is so oftern the case, Moffat puts a "cool" idea or moment above a well thought out story. And I'm not even going to start on the whole idea of the Doctor turing children into killers in the first place...

OT, but that's exactly the problem I often had with RTD and it's the last charge I would generally level at Moffat. I like your point in this case though.

Who knows eh, maybe all the kids were off scuba diving or otherwise looking away when the Daleks/Cybermen/Silents etc were right in front of em eh?

 

[The Badger]

...and I'm watching the Moon Landing. Mummy and Daddy aren't in the room at the moment...

In real life my brother watched the Moon Landing when he was four years old. How do you think he'd have managed?

Wait. The Moon Landing is on and the parents aren't bothering to watch? Just leaving a small child alone in a room with the TV, unsupervised? That's more disturbing than anything in the episode.