Why didn't Nero just go straight to the Romulans and give them the Narada? It had technology far beyond the Federation and he would have been hailed a hero, hell they probably would have made him Praetor. The Romulan War was less than 100 years earlier and I'm sure they'd be more than willing to destroy the Federation for him once they reverse engineered the technology.
Instead of wasting his time waging a one ship war...
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1. He was nuts.
2. The Romulans trusted Spock to save them, something a crazyman hellbent on Spock-revenge is unlikely to forget. The government are therefore stupid and need Nero to do all the work for them.
3. The Romulans are uber-paranoid and probably would have done to him and his crew what the Klingons did in the deleted scenes.
Also... Nero may have already been Praetor. Or at least declared himself such. In Countdown, he kills the Praetor and takes his stick, and and in the movie when the Federation fleet launches, Ayel calls him "Prod Nero", which the commentary says (after LOLing at "Prod") is probably meant to mean "Praetor". Also, towards the end a heavily accented voice over the Narada's intercom yells something that sounds suspiciously like "Praetor Nero!". But even if I'm right, he's only the self-appointed Praetor of the 24th century debris that was once Romulus, and not the 23rd century version he and his crew "stands apart" from.
2. The Romulans trusted Spock to save them, something a crazyman hellbent on Spock-revenge is unlikely to forget. The government are therefore stupid and need Nero to do all the work for them.
3. The Romulans are uber-paranoid and probably would have done to him and his crew what the Klingons did in the deleted scenes.
Also... Nero may have already been Praetor. Or at least declared himself such. In Countdown, he kills the Praetor and takes his stick, and and in the movie when the Federation fleet launches, Ayel calls him "Prod Nero", which the commentary says (after LOLing at "Prod") is probably meant to mean "Praetor". Also, towards the end a heavily accented voice over the Narada's intercom yells something that sounds suspiciously like "Praetor Nero!". But even if I'm right, he's only the self-appointed Praetor of the 24th century debris that was once Romulus, and not the 23rd century version he and his crew "stands apart" from.
Why would Nero have wanted to help Romulus? It wasn't his Romulus - that world was gone for good.
Nero was only out for revenge. For all we know, Romulus of the 23rd century was the third planet on his to-do list, because its 24th century self had been complicit in the death of his family.
Contrary to Countdown, Nero can't have interacted with any post-apocalypse Romulans, Praetor or otherwise, because he fell into the black hole right after Spock had created it. But the movie does confirm that Nero considers himself the last of the Romulan Star Empire, meaning he doesn't think much of the goons back on Romulus.
Timo Saloniemi
Nero was only out for revenge. For all we know, Romulus of the 23rd century was the third planet on his to-do list, because its 24th century self had been complicit in the death of his family.
Contrary to Countdown, Nero can't have interacted with any post-apocalypse Romulans, Praetor or otherwise, because he fell into the black hole right after Spock had created it. But the movie does confirm that Nero considers himself the last of the Romulan Star Empire, meaning he doesn't think much of the goons back on Romulus.
Timo Saloniemi
Nope. He says to Pike he's preventing genocide after destroying Vulcan, and that he's trying to save the home and wife that he loves.
Mind melds are often less than exact recreations of events - recall "Flashback". At the very least there's wiggle room, especially when what we saw was more akin to a "previously on Star Trek" recap than anything.
Not quite - he says he has already prevented genocide by destroying Vulcan.
That doesn't make much sense, so perhaps we ought to dismiss it as another one of the madman's rants.
It's the rest of that rant that's more interesting, as Nero there tells Pike that he intends to make life easier for the surviving Romulus by eradicating the Federation. So apparently he's not going to destroy Romulus after all. But he's not really talking about saving his wife, just about giving Romulus a second chance as a side product to his murderous rampage.
Granted. But Spock is giving a narration in plain English, indicating that he was intercepted at the beginning of his return journey. And how could it be otherwise,when the only universe-spanning black hole in existence was created at the beginning of his return journey? His narration is not at odds with the events, cannot be. Unless he's deliberately hiding the fact that he spent several days on the ashes of Romulus before heading back for reason X, of course.
Timo Saloniemi
He had his own supply, so he didn't need them anymore.
...And for all we know, he already used that supply to preemptively neutralize the supernova in 2258, after capturing Spock but before attacking Vulcan. After all, for some reason, he engaged a Klingon fleet even though Klingons weren't involved in the destruction of Romulus. But Klingons were involved somehow in the events of 2233, according to the Kelvin walla. If the angry star seen in 2233 were the one to go supernova, and the black hole brought Nero and Spock through time but not through space, then Nero would have to return to that Klingon-infested location to perform his neutralizing thing...
That way, he wouldn't be lying to Pike.
Timo Saloniemi
That way, he wouldn't be lying to Pike.
Timo Saloniemi
I've recently come to believe that Nero ultimately intended to become the new Praetor of Romulus and that his campaign of annihilation against the Federation was intended to give him the requisite number of Badass Points needed to initiate a successful coup. Romulans are similar to Klingons in that they worship strength and the glory of victory; if Shinzon can earn the loyalty of the Romulan fleet just by having a bigass warship and the potential to destroy the Federation, Nero could certainly do the same by having an even bigger ship and SUCCESSFULLY destroying the Federation.
Exactly. Nero destroys the Federation first, then goes home, and the Romulan people basically throw themselves at his feet in fear AND admiration. . .if he goes to Romulus before the Federation is destroyed and before getting the red matter, and the Romulan government says thanks for the technology, takes his ship, do away with him, wage war on the Federation, but totally blow off the coming supernova. . .
~FS
Or he could just have detroyed that star and prevented the events that destroyed Romulus from ever happening. After that, though, I cant imagine him ''giving" late 24th century technology to the mid 23rd Century Romulans when he could just declare himself the emperor and then start having the Romulan ships upgraded. With that accomplished, then they could overwhelm the Federation, Klingons, etc.
He might have. Its never said in the movie that he did not eliminate that star. It seems like he would have had the time to do it. But then you can add on whatever you like. That he had time to communicate with the contemporary Romulans, etc.
I would prefer that nothing along the lines of the Klingons having that ship for 25 years be said. That always seemed like a dumb idea. Theres no way the Klingons would leave it, fully operational, and fully armed in orbit around a prison planet. Theyd have taken that thing somewhere else and taken it apart to learn how it works. If he did fight the Klingons, and it seems clear that it was him, Id prefer to say that he ran into them on the way to neutralizing that star.
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