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Wonder Woman(NBC) *Spoilers!*

Pretty much everything I've seen and read up to this point leads me to believe this project is is the most elaborate, drawn-out April fool's joke I've ever seen.
 
Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman even wore a swimming version of the Wonder Woman suit.

Maybe the new WW will have several outfits that, like Carter's WW, she'll wear as circumstances warrant. The long pants for chilly evenings, the shorts for tropical missions ... hey, if they haven't got the fashion dolls lined up for merchandising they wouldn't be doing their jobs, now would they? And fashion dolls need a wardrobe, right?

Alex
 
Maybe if they start with the origin story, she'll go through different versions of the costume before settling on one.
 
^They aren't starting with the origin story, except in flashbacks. At the time of the main body of the pilot, she's been established as Wonder Woman for several years.
 
Thank the gods.

Trying to squeeze all that Origin into the pilot of The Cape was murder.

And doubly so for the last Spider-Man franchise.
 
Maybe if they start with the origin story, she'll go through different versions of the costume before settling on one.

^They aren't starting with the origin story, except in flashbacks. At the time of the main body of the pilot, she's been established as Wonder Woman for several years.
Maybe it will just outfits in different situations kinda thing then.
I'm glad to hear that they're skipping the origin story. IMO WW's origin is simple enough that it can probably be covered in just a bit of dialogue.
 
Her origin is very simple. A quasi-Greek, utopian civilization that's thousands of years old and composed entirely of immortal women (and heretofore unknown to the rest of the world) selects an ambassador to represent their people to the rest of the world. She's not actually one of them, of course, having been formed out of clay. Oh, and the entire Greek pantheon of gods is real.

This ambassador of peace was given superhuman powers which make her a skilled combatant. Oh, except her powers all go away if her wrists are ever chained together. She's given an aircraft that somehow uses technology totally unfamiliar to the inhabitants of her utopian home. Oh, and it's invisible.

This diplomatic representative, instead of dressing formally, generally wears a skintight costume which shows a scandalous amount of cleavage. The costume displays the colors of the nation where she resides, instead of her own nation, because....

I'm sorry, what was the question again?
 
Her origin is very simple. A quasi-Greek, utopian civilization that's thousands of years old and composed entirely of immortal women (and heretofore unknown to the rest of the world) selects an ambassador to represent their people to the rest of the world. She's not actually one of them, of course, having been formed out of clay. Oh, and the entire Greek pantheon of gods is real.

This ambassador of peace was given superhuman powers which make her a skilled combatant. Oh, except her powers all go away if her wrists are ever chained together. She's given an aircraft that somehow uses technology totally unfamiliar to the inhabitants of her utopian home. Oh, and it's invisible.

This diplomatic representative, instead of dressing formally, generally wears a skintight costume which shows a scandalous amount of cleavage. The costume displays the colors of the nation where she resides, instead of her own nation, because....

I'm sorry, what was the question again?
It is a simple origin, the daughter of Queen Hippolyta of the Amazons comes to help strive for peace. One could make any superhero sound so convoluted as above. The Perez relaunch has all the Amazons formed from clay as in Greek myths, Diana was just the final one given life. The chaining hasn't been true since Crisis on Infinite Earths. It had a purpose in Marston's works if you follow Bondage and Submission imagery. Later writers only used it to make her a damsel in distress which Marston never did. The plane was originally a piece of Amazon tech which was done away with in the relaunch under Perez. It was brought back by a later writer (Byrne I think, although it might be another) however it was alien tech, not the Amazons. As for her costume, well all those other sensibly dressed superheroines sure show her to be on the otherside of fashion. Though at least she has sense enough to have no cape.
 
It is a simple origin, the daughter of Queen Hippolyta of the Amazons comes to help strive for peace.
No, it's not a simple origin. The way you're phrasing it here makes it sound reasonable, but were we not already familiar with the character, it would never in a million year conjure the image of Wonder Woman.

First, we're not dealing with a conventional version of the Amazons here. In fact, Wonder Woman's Amazons are a very odd fictional construct: a civilization of women who worship the Greek pantheon, dress like extras in a sword & sandal movie, live in a parallel world, and want to bring peace to "man's world" despite the fact that their own civilization focuses on warfare almost exclusively.

The daughter of Queen Hippolyta is not really her daughter, but rather some kind of weird stone golem, she was named after a Roman Goddess, for some reason, and chooses to call herself "Wonder Woman", which makes very little sense, yet is easier to explain than the fact that she's wearing a weird-looking swimsuit made of gold and bright colors. And she has a magic lasso. A lasso.

Oh, and the way she's helping us strive for peace? Usually, she's just punching supervillains.
 
It is, you're just determined to over-analyze. Marston picked and chose what he wanted for Wonder Woman, it's how she has a Roman name he wasn't concerned with any felicity to actual mythology or making a one to one correspondence with it. Marston's Amazons weren't obsessed with war, they were devotees of Aphrodite. They believed in excelling at whatever they focused on. Perez's were equally so, they were never focused on war, that was later writers especially after Artemis and the Bana Migdahl were used extensively by Messner Loebs.

Diana never chose to call herself Wonder Woman, that was a name given to her by the press, she's always called herself Diana since the Perez relaunch. She isn't a golem, she has the same creation story as as Greek mythology and Christian myth- Adam and Eve, god turned clay into a human being. Golems are always clay, have no soul and have to be directed by someone since they have no free will, being soul-less. None of that matches Diana. But yes, all those other comic book characters are so very reasonable and without the least ridiculousness to them.
 
It is, you're just determined to over-analyze. Marston picked and chose what he wanted for Wonder Woman, it's how she has a Roman name he wasn't concerned with any felicity to actual mythology or making a one to one correspondence with it. Marston's Amazons weren't obsessed with war, they were devotees of Aphrodite. They believed in excelling at whatever they focused on. Perez's were equally so, they were never focused on war, that was later writers especially after Artemis and the Bana Migdahl were used extensively by Messner Loebs.

Diana never chose to call herself Wonder Woman, that was a name given to her by the press, she's always called herself Diana since the Perez relaunch. She isn't a golem, she has the same creation story as as Greek mythology and Christian myth- Adam and Eve, god turned clay into a human being. Golems are always clay, have no soul and have to be directed by someone since they have no free will, being soul-less. None of that matches Diana. But yes, all those other comic book characters are so very reasonable and without the least ridiculousness to them.
And I'm the one who's overanalyzing it? :D

No one in the general audience knows about the rationales you've just listed, and I don't think anyone cares. If you need to delve into comic book archeology to find out which version of the character did what and which writer introduced which element that retconned or contradicted some other element introduced by some other writer, what you're dealing with is a mess of a character with a convoluted origin. Wonder Woman's origin is not any more ridiculous than any other super-heroe's, but yes, it's much more byzantine and complicated.
 
^Well, keep in mind that most of the people who watch this television show (if it gets beyond pilot stage at all) won't be familiar with the comics, so all that debating over her comics origin is probably moot. The show can invent its own version of the origin and can simplify or change anything it wants. I guess these days, with Internet fandom being so active, there'd be more pressure to be at least moderately faithful to the comics than there would've been for something from the '70s (like Kenneth Johnson's The Incredible Hulk, which used almost nothing from the comics), but the majority of viewers aren't going to know the difference.
 
It is, you're just determined to over-analyze. Marston picked and chose what he wanted for Wonder Woman, it's how she has a Roman name he wasn't concerned with any felicity to actual mythology or making a one to one correspondence with it. Marston's Amazons weren't obsessed with war, they were devotees of Aphrodite. They believed in excelling at whatever they focused on. Perez's were equally so, they were never focused on war, that was later writers especially after Artemis and the Bana Migdahl were used extensively by Messner Loebs.

Diana never chose to call herself Wonder Woman, that was a name given to her by the press, she's always called herself Diana since the Perez relaunch. She isn't a golem, she has the same creation story as as Greek mythology and Christian myth- Adam and Eve, god turned clay into a human being. Golems are always clay, have no soul and have to be directed by someone since they have no free will, being soul-less. None of that matches Diana. But yes, all those other comic book characters are so very reasonable and without the least ridiculousness to them.
And I'm the one who's overanalyzing it? :D

No one in the general audience knows about the rationales you've just listed, and I don't think anyone cares. If you need to delve into comic book archeology to find out which version of the character did what and which writer introduced which element that retconned or contradicted some other element introduced by some other writer, what you're dealing with is a mess of a character with a convoluted origin. Wonder Woman's origin is not any more ridiculous than any other super-heroe's, but yes, it's much more byzantine and complicated.
They are all that byzantine and complicated, especially Superman and Batman after some 70 years. Hers is as simple as any others, and can be made to sound ridiculous as your doing.

^Well, keep in mind that most of the people who watch this television show (if it gets beyond pilot stage at all) won't be familiar with the comics, so all that debating over her comics origin is probably moot. The show can invent its own version of the origin and can simplify or change anything it wants.

Exactly so, the character and her background are fictional. The TV audience won't care about all the details kept or lost any more than they did with the Lynda Carter series, which was quite different in many ways from the comics as they were then. So much so, had there been an internet, it would have been as royally ripped apart as some are doing with DEK's series which we've yet to see.
 
It's a simple origin: She's an amazon who came here from an island utopia during the second world war to kick ass. She doesn't get older, much.

And on to minute two of the pilot...
 
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