[TrekMovie] Bob Orci: "Terra Nova and Bounty no longer canon!"

[Mach5]

From Trekmovie.com:

"We are really passionate about Star Trek around here, you know, we take it seriously" said Orci, asked about the main reason behind this puzzling move. "We [Orci, Abrams, Lindelof, Kurtzman, AKA 'The Supreme Court'] know that this is quite a precedent, and that you can't just de-canonize stuff, you know, the stuff that's already on DVD, the stuff people paid for... But the thing is, the overall quality of the entire franchise is at stake here, its reputation is at stake, and these are not some irrelevant issues that you just ignore like that. So Alex [Kurtzman] and I brought this to CBS's and Paramount's attention, and they said 'what the hell, why not, make a list and bring it over, but be sure to start with Enterprise, cause that show is mostly crap', and we were, like 'Shit, we know, right?', but then the issue was 'which episodes do we erase from the 'space time continuum' [chuckles], and we decided to start with these two because they were just embarrassing, a disgrace not just for the studio, but for the fans as well. We'll be killing them more as we go, call it a 'spring cleanup' if you will, and this is about it for 2011. Since our Star Trek sequel is due next year, Alex, Damon, JJ and I think it would be only fitting if we 'killed' two TOS episodes, probably some time around April Fools day 2012."

 

[F. King Daniel]

Uh-huh.

 

[Middleman]

From Trekmovie.com:

"We are really passionate about Star Trek around here, you know, we take it seriously" said Orci, asked about the main reason behind this puzzling move. "We [Orci, Abrams, Lindelof, Kurtzman, AKA 'The Supreme Court'] know that this is quite a precedent, and that you can't just de-canonize stuff, you know, the stuff that's already on DVD, the stuff people paid for... But the thing is, the overall quality of the entire franchise is at stake here, its reputation is at stake, and these are not some irrelevant issues that you just ignore like that. So Alex [Kurtzman] and I brought this to CBS's and Paramount's attention, and they said 'what the hell, why not, make a list and bring it over, but be sure to start with Enterprise, cause that show is mostly crap', and we were, like 'Shit, we know, right?', but then the issue was 'which episodes do we erase from the 'space time continuum' [chuckles], and we decided to start with these two because they were just embarrassing, a disgrace not just for the studio, but for the fans as well. We'll be killing them more as we go, call it a 'spring cleanup' if you will, and this is about it for 2011. Since our Star Trek sequel is due next year, Alex, Damon, JJ and I think it would be only fitting if we 'killed' two TOS episodes, probably some time around April Fools day 2012."

Nice Try!

I'm surprised you didn't choose "A Night in Sickbay"!

 

[Mach5]

I'm surprised you didn't choose "A Night in Sickbay"!

Meh, Orci probably likes it.

 

[PowderedToastMan]

not sure if i should be honored or pissed that ppl use trekmovie.com to float april fools fakes.

 

[Captain Robert April]

We are not amused.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

not sure if i should be honored or pissed that ppl use trekmovie.com to float april fools fakes.

Honored. Voice of Trek Info.

 

[DS9forever]

Those too episodes seem a little obscure for a April Fools joke. I couldn't even remember what Terra Nova was about.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I love Terra Nova. I never get the dislike of it.

 

[Skywalker]

It's shale!

 

[Reliant Robin]

I thought Terra Nova had buckets of charm. Well. A bucket.

Bound, on the other hand, is going to burn in the Special Hell.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

What is wrong with Terra Nova? It was classic Trek themes. It would have been a huge winner as a TOS ep.

 

[Reliant Robin]

It has Dominic Keating with a dirty face. There is just nothing at all that could possibly be wrong with that.

 

[Mach5]

What is wrong with Terra Nova?

These people:

They're annoying beyond words.

It was classic Trek themes.

Up the long ladder, but with fucktards!

Also, it was ENT's first season, goddammit! A little TOO EARLY for a friggin' REHASH!

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Also, it was ENT's first season, goddammit! A little TOO EARLY for a friggin' REHASH!

TNG did a rehash on its second episode.

 

[Mach5]

Also, it was ENT's first season, goddammit! A little TOO EARLY for a friggin' REHASH!

TNG did a rehash on its second episode.

Yeah, TNG was only the first TOS spinoff, and a first Trek TV series in nearly two decades.

TV audiences were already greatly suffering from Trek fatigue when ENT came along, and the last thing they needed was more of the same, IMO.

I can't shake the feeling that ENT would have gotten its seven years if only CBS had let Braga and Berman go with their original idea (Season 1 entirely on Earth, Archer assembling the crew while the ship is being finished etc).

 

[ChristopherPike]

Yes, it's only an April Fools that smells as bad as a corpse that lain undisturbed for 2 weeks now...

But if Bob Orci really wanted to go down in Star Trek history as a hero (on top of that little matter of breathing new life into TOS characters), he could do it quite simply.

Just decanonise "These are the Voyages..."

Properly and onscreen, by out right contradicting what went down in that 24th Century holodeck.

If there's such a moment in the next film, I'll bring the champagne. You folks can supply the glasses.

 

[Mach5]

Just decanonise "These are the Voyages..."

Properly and onscreen, by out right contradicting what went down in that 24th Century holodeck.

And it only takes ONE SIMPLE LINE: "...but the NX-01 was destroyed in 2157!"

 

[ChristopherPike]

Just decanonise "These are the Voyages..."

Properly and onscreen, by out right contradicting what went down in that 24th Century holodeck.

And it only takes ONE SIMPLE LINE: "...but the NX-01 was destroyed in 2157!"

Maybe there is a fate worse than death, and they made us all sit through it until the bitter end... just to see that damn starship montage!

 

[Captain Robert April]

Yes, it's only an April Fools that smells as bad as a corpse that lain undisturbed for 2 weeks now...

But if Bob Orci really wanted to go down in Star Trek history as a hero (on top of that little matter of breathing new life into TOS characters), he could do it quite simply.

Just decanonise "These are the Voyages..."

Properly and onscreen, by out right contradicting what went down in that 24th Century holodeck.

If there's such a moment in the next film, I'll bring the champagne. You folks can supply the glasses.

Can't really decanonize it, but it's really easy to reduce the significance to near zero.

After all, the entire thing took place on the holodeck, two centuries after the events supposedly depicted took place. Who's to say the programmer got all that much right?