Wonder Woman(NBC) *Spoilers!*

[Professor Zoom]

No offense, but I'm not surprised to be emphatically disagreed with on this score - and I would expect it to be someone of my own age group who would do so, not a 9 year old because they are generally less impressed with these efforts from the 70s. I believe it takes a rather extreme amount of effort to see these portrayals clearly if you have loved them dearly for 30 years. In Superman: The Movie, Reeve is frequently awkward, the writing is frequently lame, and, I'm sorry, but his trunks in that flick - are god awful. The spandex suit, that plastic yellow belt, the boots - look just as much like a rented Halloween costume as the WW outift being discussed here. Which is not to say I don't have a very fond place in my heart for all of them and the movie in general, which manages to rise above its, sometimes considerable, flaws.

All I'm really saying is - it wouldn't hurt any of us to try to give a contemporary production the latitude we give the 70s productions. We might enjoy them a lot more that way.

I showed my wife the movie about a year ago. She grew up in India, so she had never seen it.

She loved it. Loved Reeve.

So, I don't think it's just the lens of childhood and nostalgia. I think in the case of that particular film, it's a GOOD movie.

Not to say that can't happen, I tried watching Buck Rogers recently, oh, boy, not so good.

 

[Jetfire]

http://wonderwomantv.com/4995/spotted-adrianne-palicki-on-the-wonder-woman-set/

Adrianne Palicki On The Wonder Woman Set. Looking nice.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I don't know about definitive

In what live action released to date, who is more definitive as Wonder Woman than Linda Carter? Who is more definitive as Superman than Christopher Reeve?

All I'm really saying is - it wouldn't hurt any of us to try to give a contemporary production the latitude we give the 70s productions. We might enjoy them a lot more that way.

I hope nothing I said led you to believe that I would not do this.

 

[davejames]

http://wonderwomantv.com/4995/spotted-adrianne-palicki-on-the-wonder-woman-set/

Adrianne Palicki On The Wonder Woman Set. Looking nice.

Yeah, she does look really good there. She's got kind of a pin-up girl thing going on.

(And her boobs are looking decidedly less fake as well)

 

[Christopher]

It is definitely not fair to dismiss appreciation of Christopher Reeve as merely childhood nostalgia. For much of my life, I've had a low opinion of the Reeve Superman films, even the first one, but more recently I've come to appreciate the first one and the Donner cut of the second. In any case, though, I've always felt Reeve did a superb job in the role. He really captured the sincerity, decency, strength, and charisma of Superman, and he was better than any other live-action performer at differentiating Clark Kent from Superman. Indeed, as he showed in the first movie (and in the audition footage incorporated into the Donner cut of S2), he could pull off a remarkable Clark-to-Superman transformation on camera without even changing clothes. Indeed, I'd go further and say that no actor playing any superhero in live action has ever been so good at differentiating the hero and civilian personas through performance alone. (I'd hardly call Christian Bale's Bat-growl a good way of differentiating them.)

Another hit against the nostalgia theory is that I've never really liked Margot Kidder much as Lois (though again, my opinion somewhat improved upon my recent rewatch of the original film), and my opinion of Gene Hackman as Luthor has fallen considerably over the years. But I still think highly of Reeve.

And as for Lynda Carter, I don't remember much of her as Wonder Woman, but from what I've seen of her in more recent years, I don't have a high opinion of her acting. So no, I'm not a slave to nostalgia.

In what live action released to date, who is more definitive as Wonder Woman than Linda Carter?

That's not a fair question, because nobody else has played Wonder Woman in live action since Lynda Carter, and nobody played the role before her except for a couple of variant versions: Linda Harrison in an unaired 4-minute test reel made by the producers of Batman in 1967, a comedy in which Diana Prince was a plain girl who basically suffered the delusion of being Wonder Woman, and Cathy Lee Crosby in a 90-minute TV pilot based on the powerless "Mod-era" secret agent Diana Prince of the early '70s comics. So Carter is the only person ever to play the "standard" Wonder Woman character in live action before now. If she's "definitive," it's only by default.


neither of which was authentic to the Wonder Woman character as we know her today. So there isn't really anyone to compare Carter against.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What's sad is that the farcical Tick's Captain Liberty pulls off a better on-screen WW-inspired costume than what we're getting here.

No.

Lynda Carter says she likes the new costume, BTW. Of course, she's sitting by the phone waiting for a call from Kelley anyway, so...

Gotta laugh at the FOX News "it lacks patriotism" bullshit. Since when is this Themysciran babe required to wave an American flag? Was she ever even naturalized?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

If she's "definitive," it's only by default.

Agreed.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant "Lynda Carter".

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Of course, since Diana apparently just about never wears the costume this is not gonna be that big a deal from week to week, either.

 

[Dream]

Of course, since Diana apparently just about never wears the costume this is not gonna be that big a deal from week to week, either.

So this is going to be another Smallville?

 

[Aragorn]

So this is going to be another Smallville?

Well it's NBC, so at the very least they'll have more than one exterior location to shoot at.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Of course, since Diana apparently just about never wears the costume this is not gonna be that big a deal from week to week, either.

So this is going to be another Smallville?

Unlikely, since Kelley is fifty times the writer that anyone on that series is.

 

[Jetfire]

Of course, since Diana apparently just about never wears the costume this is not gonna be that big a deal from week to week, either.

So this is going to be another Smallville?

Unlikely, since Kelley is fifty times the writer that anyone on that series is.

True story.

 

[Kelso]

Yeah, Kelley is the sole reason I am interested in this show.

Well, okay... the super hot chick they cast as the lead also doesn't hurt.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

This could still be a decent show if they use the costume sparingly, or not at all. Maybe just in the episode where she goes to a Halloween party.

I can hope against hope that the costume isn't in the show, and it was all just a stunt to get the fanboys to provide free publicity.

 

[Jetfire]

I don't think it is that bad...I am really liking it now.

 

[Dream]

This could still be a decent show if they use the costume sparingly, or not at all. Maybe just in the episode where she goes to a Halloween party.

I can hope against hope that the costume isn't in the show, and it was all just a stunt to get the fanboys to provide free publicity.

I hate you.

If they aren't going to have the costume on the show, then they shouldn't be doing a superhero show in the first place.

 

[Sindatur]

I say we need to wait until we see it on film, with proper lighting. Everyone knows you need certain this or that with certain lighting. Maybe the lighting on the show would lose the costume in the shot with anything less "shiny and plastic" looking?

 

[StarTrek1701]

I personally hate the costume but I think this is going to be more like the "Daniel Craig + Heath Ledger + Batman Begins Tumbler" situation. Remember those? People hated them at first but in the end the final products looked superb.

 

[flemm]

^ I certainly wouldn't rule it out. There is almost always an initial freak out period when early images like this are released. (One of the reasons, I suppose, why studios don't really care about releasing fairly unimpressive images initially.)

 

[Captaindemotion]

Of course, since Diana apparently just about never wears the costume this is not gonna be that big a deal from week to week, either.

So this is going to be another Smallville?

Unlikely, since Kelley is fifty times the writer that anyone on that series is.

That's very insulting.




To Kelley. Only 50 times?