Lost era round 2?
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^ I remember that issue. I'd second a USS Kelvin book. I doubt though we'll get any JJ trek books until maybe after the second movie comes out and establishes the universe more. I was really looking forward to the four novels that were axed like most other fans were.
^ Ever read the SNW story "Immortality Blues"? It touches on WW3 a bit. Not the full epic I'd like, but close.
It occurred to me a few days ago how little we know the NX-01 crew. What did Archer do before captaining the Enteprise? We saw him competing with A.G. Robinson for command, but other than going to "flight school", being a test pilot and sleeping with (then-) Commander Hernandez, what else is there? Kirk and Picard's pre-Enterprise years have been pretty well "documented".
Same for the rest of the NX-01 crew - their pre-Enterprise lives can be summed up in just one or two lines each.
Same for the rest of the NX-01 crew - their pre-Enterprise lives can be summed up in just one or two lines each.
Hmm...maybe something involving the "ringship" Enterprise set prior to ENT, perhaps back in the days when Warp 5 might have seemed impossible...
^ But you gotta admit, World War III in the Star Trek universe was a MAJOR plot point. I don't think they should just leave us hanging like that. Do more than just toss us a few table scraps like "ECON", I would like to know WHO the ECON are, who the other factions were, who started the war, who survived it, how Earth recovered so quickly, etc. That's not too much to ask, is it? The Cardassian conflicts have been covered, but WWIII has not. Ever. That I'm aware of.
Side note: The author of the VERY excellent fanfic First Contact: The Iron Horse (posted right in the Fan Fiction forum here) is, from what I hear, planning on expanding it into a full length novel. It's a post-WWIII epic. Highly recommended.
The big problem with exploring WWIII in detail is that it would very quickly get bogged down in real-day politics: Vulcan first contact is only five decades away from us. Every factor, from the combatants to their motives to, well, everything would be directly relevant to our reality. Real-world politics have enough of an impact on 23rd or 24th century discussions, what would something within our lifetimes do? Too much controversy, IMHO.
You don't remember it was in the news, apparently he killed a number of fans. It was recreated in that movie, Scream.
I don't think so. Most of the factions in Trek's WWIII probably don't exist in real life anyway. Remember, the 'Eastern Coalition' was originally supposed to be China, but they changed all references to it at the last minute (no doubt to avoid pissing off China or any Chinese Trek fans). Even though, judging by TNG's pilot, the ECON quite obviously IS China anyway, or is centered around it.
When The Sundered mentioned a few of the players, none of the resulting names existed in 'our' world. Muslim Bloc, Eastern Coalition, Pan-African Alliance. The writers can do anything they want with those, since they don't exist. And the USA survives the war, as "The Royale" showed (a 52-star flag is said to exist anywhere between 2033 and 2079, and WW III was well before 2079).
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Yeah while the timeline in Star Trek's back story is similar to our own there were various degrees of differences. World War III to me always seemed like an eventual fall out of the Eugenics War started by Khan and his "Supermen". I like how the novel "Federation" addressed Col. Green and the war. I don't think that it would be too difficult to write a WWIII trilogy.
^I do. Despite the differences (which you get in any TV show, only moreso in Trek because it's so old), Trek's world is supposed to be our future. The whole optimistic bent of Trek is pointless if it's some alternate reality.
Star Trek's optimism isn't based on it's back story. It's based on the setting and stories told in it's future. World War III was a horrific time period that shaped the future of that world. I'm not too sure that it's supposed to be "our" world, it's similar to our world but not meant to be exactly what we're going through now.
you're right on that count when voyager went back in time to the late 90's earth then was soppsed to be in the eugennic's war . but we saw no sighn of fighting .
and when was www 3 sopposed to have started . I know it was in the 21st century but was it early or late in the century . we know it started and ended before first contact . and then there was the time when janeway told the story about her realtive in the mid 21st century and we see no sighns of conflict .
and when was www 3 sopposed to have started . I know it was in the 21st century but was it early or late in the century . we know it started and ended before first contact . and then there was the time when janeway told the story about her realtive in the mid 21st century and we see no sighns of conflict .
That's not necessarily a problem. If you visited San Francisco or Kansas City in 1943, you wouldn't have seen any fighting either--even though World War II was underway in Europe and the Pacific.
Nobody said the Eugenics Wars had engulfed every city on the planet . . . .
A World War doesn't mean the fighting all over the world, it simply means countries from all over the world are involved. There were plenty of parts of the world where there wasn't any fighting in WWI or WWII, like mainland USA for instance. The closest the fighting ever came was Alaska and Hawaii.
Well, World War II was a world conflict, fought in Europe, the Pacific, Africa, etc. But that doesn't mean that every city was a battlefield or that originary life wasn't still going on. Especially in the United States.
Look at IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE or HOLIDAY INN or any number of Hollywood films set during the war years. The war is often lurking in the background somewhere, but Bedford Falls is hardly a warzone. Kids are still going to school, people are working nine to five jobs, and chorus girls are hoping to make their big break on Broadway . . .
As for the Eugenics Wars, we know that Khan had conquered most of Asia. I like to think that if Voyager had visited Rajasthan they might have run into him. But you could probably spend a couple of hectic days in San Francisco and not run into much evidence of the Eugenics Wars at all. Just like during World Wars I and II.
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