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How about Jar-Jar doing a fan dance?
Star Trek vs Star Wars (Ultimate Nerd Showdown)
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But does More Money equate to Better Series?
It's got ongoing plot threads that deal in a reasonably believable and sympathetic way with the psychology of the characters and present a coherent picture of the politics of the Republic - much more so than the PT ever did. But the clincher is that TCW has returned the sense of myth, mystery and epic scope to Star Wars, which was utterly absent in the entire PT, despite some inconclusive blather about Space Jesus.
Some Star Wars fans can't stand TCW, just like some Star Trek fans can't stand Trek XI. I think they're both healthy and necessary evolutions to keeping their respective franchises alive. Of course, some adjustment will be needed. But I'm not interested in novels for either franchise. I prefer sci fi novels that don't originate in other media.
Star Wars has never had the advantage (till now) of developing characters in a TV series, with all the screen time that offers. So now that TCW exists, we get to see how good Star Wars is at it. Well, uh, mixed bag. Not as good as DS9 (especially in the villains!) but better than VOY. Anakin's actually getting a character arc and he comes off as a lot less crazy than Janeway.
I'll probably regret saying that for many reasons...
Agreed. I know I watched the original films as a kid and didn't remember much other than Ewoks looking like dogs so that was cool. I tried re-watching the films as an adult and thought they were boring. I've never Episode I or II but did see Episode III and thought it was just boring and had bad acting and directing. Light sabers are cool and Star Wars has cooler swag if you will and it's easier for kids to get into but Star Trek is just more interesting and has more depth to it.
Agreed.
I actually started this same thread on a different forum. Of course I like Trek better (why do you think I post on a Trek forum! 
) However, I do also like the original Star Wars trilogy and absolutley despise the prequels and the Clone Wars, etc, etc. I do like The Shadows of the Empire novel from the Star Wars franchise as well; it is one of the best books I've ever read. Trek is more interesting and enjoyable to me though overall.
) However, I do also like the original Star Wars trilogy and absolutley despise the prequels and the Clone Wars, etc, etc. I do like The Shadows of the Empire novel from the Star Wars franchise as well; it is one of the best books I've ever read. Trek is more interesting and enjoyable to me though overall.
I felt the same way and had to stop after I saw how long the rounds went on...
I agree. They are like apples and oranges...if the apples are rotten. And the apples are Star Wars.
No, no, no! You've got your terms wrong. Star Wars is clearly an orange.
Most definitely not. But it is an empirical evidence of which series is more financially successful.
For me, Trek has always had the benefit of having several hundred more hours of screen time to develop its characters and hone its theme. Both are cultural phenomenons and both have created culture icons (Darth Vader's "I am your father", Spock's "Live long and prosper.")
But at the end of the day, I care about the characters in ST much more because I've seen them much more. I have more history with them and I know much more about who they are beyond their roles of being a captain or a commander or an android. SW characters are much more one dimensional and lack depth.
So I like Star Trek more. I say that even though I have two master replica light sabers and NO Star Trek merchandise whatsoever.
The way money equates to a better series is that when someone thinks the series will make money, we get to see it. I can't help noticing the glaring lack of a new Star Trek series on TV right now.
The way money equates to a better series is that when someone thinks the series will make money, we get to see it. I can't help noticing the glaring lack of a new Star Trek series on TV right now.
And I can't help noticing the lack of new Star Wars movies on the horizon
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Considering what the others were like, we should be grateful for that. I'm sure anything, no matter how awful, with Star Wars slapped on it would make money in theaters. I'm not at all sure anything, no matter how good, with Star Trek slapped on it would make money on TV.
Not fair, but there you have it.
Not fair, but there you have it.
I'm not so sure. JJ and co. blew off the stigma that modern Trek had built up with one advertising campaign and an enjoyable movie. As long as Rick Berman and friends are kept away (an entirely fresh perspective on weekly Trek is required), a new Trek TV series (assuming it's good) has a chance to succeed. Not a huge one, admittedly, but a chance nonetheless.
Obviously wouldn't be smart to risk while Trek movies are doing well. Maybe in a few years, after the 13th movie or whatever.
Obviously wouldn't be smart to risk while Trek movies are doing well. Maybe in a few years, after the 13th movie or whatever.
I was a Star Wars fan first then just recently became a Star Trek fan (Watching the TNG series online).
If I was in the Star Trek universe, I could be someone. Go to starfleet and become an engineer or astrophysicist.
If I was in the Star Wars universe, I'd just be another alien peasant on an alien planet being oppressed by the empire and there would be nothing I could do about it.
If I was in the Star Trek universe, I could be someone. Go to starfleet and become an engineer or astrophysicist.
If I was in the Star Wars universe, I'd just be another alien peasant on an alien planet being oppressed by the empire and there would be nothing I could do about it.
"Hundreds of star trek fans cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced!"
Geez, I love them both.
Geez, I love them both.
It is very difficult to join Starfleet. They only take the best of the best of the best. You could always be Boothby's apprentice though. Or a holodeck janitor.
I just realized..."Star Wars: The Clone Wars" and "Star Trek: Nemesis" are sort of counterparts. They both represent the first theatrical features to be considered box office flops (at least compared to their predecessors) and get negative reviews in franchises that had been fairly consistent with movies up to that point (if not critically, at least in terms of box office gross). Someone should start a poll about which one was worse. 
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