Future Federation wars

[doublegoodprole]

I can't see the Federation that we're familiar with taking such steps to prevent a planet from seceding from the Federation, but the emphasis is, of course, on, "that we're familiar with."

Think of it like Fort Sumter...you know, who thinks the Union was wrong nowadays? I dunno, I am just sick of the same old same old crap. The Federation of the future needs to be up against a real enemy that isn't even bad, not this black hats/white hats bullshit.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I can't see the Federation that we're familiar with taking such steps to prevent a planet from seceding from the Federation, but the emphasis is, of course, on, "that we're familiar with."

Think of it like Fort Sumter...you know, who thinks the Union was wrong nowadays? I dunno, I am just sick of the same old same old crap. The Federation of the future needs to be up against a real enemy that isn't even bad, not this black hats/white hats bullshit.

The Borg might qualify as "not bad" in the sense that they have their own species imperative that they are following. That's the same rule as Starfleet follows, so how can you say the Borg are "bad"? Only if bad is defined as "something that conflicts with Starfleet's imperative," but if there is no such conflict, then why are they fighting?

 

[mic of orion]

I have question/s for you, or I wanna know your thoughs, which races would attack the Federation in the 2386's?

The Klingon, I don't personally know. It would be possible, but why could they start a war against Federation. New head of the Counsil? I actually like the idea of Klingon/Federation peace.

The Romulans, could they? After what happened in Nemesis, or was that only temporal alliance?

The Jem'Hadar, a warrior race, but why they'd attack Federation again, after one defeat? Because they want to just try again?

The Breen, possible thoughs? I don't personally know anything about the Breen. Only what's seen in Deep Space Nine.

The Borg, so many Borg conflicts...

Species 8472, they then? Would they be too over-powered to the Federation?

Kazon, Hirogen, other Delta Quadrant species? They discover a wormwhole of somekind and come to Alpha Quadrant, but why they'd start a war?

The Maquis? A Federation civil war? Maquis got angry the way, Federation do things and attack? But why other humans, want to kill other humans?

Other species, tell me your ideas. I asked you, because I think I want to start a fan fic here, on Trekk BBS and I want it to tell about war times, like Deep Space 9 did. (I am a great fan of the series). But the opponent is still a big "?".

the breen, but it would be short lived war, federation would crush breen in mater of weeks, perhaps klingon and romulans might last longer

I think breen would need to have some assistance from am powerful alien race say from deep inside the beta quadrant part unknown to the federation, and they both attack the federation with romulans playing dirty behind the scene, giving false intelligence to both parties and usual romulan shenanigans

 

[doublegoodprole]

The Borg might qualify as "not bad" in the sense that they have their own species imperative that they are following. That's the same rule as Starfleet follows, so how can you say the Borg are "bad"? Only if bad is defined as "something that conflicts with Starfleet's imperative," but if there is no such conflict, then why are they fighting?

Well, prior to their pussification, I wouldn't say the Borg were bad any more than I would call my laptop bad. It just does what it's supposed to do (usually). That's much more scary than a Borg Queen molesting your pet android, I think.

Okay, how about this: the Federation vs. the Bugs from "Starship Troopers."

 

[C_Miller]

What would happen if the Romulans found out that they were manipulated into joining the Dominion War? I think that would cause a lot of unrest.

 

[Sjaddix]

What would happen if the Romulans found out that they were manipulated into joining the Dominion War? I think that would cause a lot of unrest.

Its implied that a few Romulans already know or at least that the Federation is involved. Still they did win and the Dominion would have backstabbed them anyway. Besides the Romulans can relate to the Sisko tactics that got them into the War. Still it might be useful.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

What would happen if the Romulans found out that they were manipulated into joining the Dominion War? I think that would cause a lot of unrest.

Betcha anything they already know.

Vreenak had his enemies who were far from sad at his abrupt "disappearance." Somewhere around that Federation outpost. What a coincydink! No reason to investigate further. Round file that sucker, we have a war to fight!

 

[C_Miller]

I mean, it could go either way. Either side could be used as a plot device.

 

[Tarek71]

What would happen if the Romulans found out that they were manipulated into joining the Dominion War? I think that would cause a lot of unrest.

Its implied that a few Romulans already know or at least that the Federation is involved. Still they did win and the Dominion would have backstabbed them anyway. Besides the Romulans can relate to the Sisko tactics that got them into the War. Still it might be useful.

Yeah, you have to think that that is exactly the kind of thing the Tal shiar would have pulled off if they wanted to sucker the Federation into a war on their side.

A Ssecies I would like to see more of would be the "Machine Planet" that encountered V'Ger. But I get the impression that a War with these machines would end in a lopsided ass whupping in favor of the Machines.

 

[cathouse_joe]

I'd say the Undine or The Dominion would want to start sniffing around now that the their Borg War has been brought to a halt by The Caeliar. But, I feel The Caeliar would've said something to the Dominion and/or The Undine about not trying to start something in the Borg's absence.

After that, I'd say the occasional Hirogen hunting party, or other nomadic species that finds itself within earshot of the Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians. Though I doubt those encounters would amount to anything spectacular, maybe an occasional skirmish and the Hirogen would find themselves getting spanked, considering Starfleet and the Romulans have cloaking devices and Defiant-Class ships. The Klingons and Tzinkethi would kick butt on the swarm Voyager encountered and The Hirogen.

It's a delicate balance at this point.

The Organians & The Q are always keeping an eye on other potential threats to order, too. Don't conveniently forget ~them~.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

The Cardassians are notably absent from anyone's projections.

Yes, they were ass-raped by the Klingons and then again by the Dominion. But, they are still Cardassians. I'd still probably put them around the same level as the Klingons. Low probability of attack.

The Cardies? THE CARDIES???

The Cardassians are in the same position as the Japanese and most of Europe after WWII: cites blasted to bits, star fleets nearly gone, etc. There's no way that they can do anything, because they need resources from the Federation to stay alive and rebuild their cities as well as any off-world colony that may have been razed. I'd say that the Cardies are looking at survival as a priority more than making war and conquest, and that they will need to concentrate on that in the next century or so, with any future Cardassian military mostly for self defense (kind of like the Japanese military now on Earth) and limited to Cardassia Prime, mostly consisting of lightly-armed ships with no warp drive (also like what Bajor is-irony of ironies!)

 

[Tarek71]

Well that war ended quite a few years ago now. If we assume the same number of years have passed instory as out, that was 12 years ago. Where was West Germany in 1957? Alot stronger than in 1945. And Cardassian technology for construction is vastly superior to mid 20th Century Earth.

I could easily see the Cardassians, 12 years later, being quite strong.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

The Cardassians are notably absent from anyone's projections.

Yes, they were ass-raped by the Klingons and then again by the Dominion. But, they are still Cardassians. I'd still probably put them around the same level as the Klingons. Low probability of attack.

The Cardies? THE CARDIES???

The Cardassians are in the same position as the Japanese and most of Europe after WWII: cites blasted to bits, star fleets nearly gone, etc. There's no way that they can do anything, because they need resources from the Federation to stay alive and rebuild their cities as well as any off-world colony that may have been razed. I'd say that the Cardies are looking at survival as a priority more than making war and conquest, and that they will need to concentrate on that in the next century or so, with any future Cardassian military mostly for self defense (kind of like the Japanese military now on Earth) and limited to Cardassia Prime, mostly consisting of lightly-armed ships with no warp drive (also like what Bajor is-irony of ironies!)

Crdassuns are teh evulz, lol

they invaed anyway

 

[Sjaddix]

yeah the cardies are going to need decades to get off the ground, the Bajorans are a bigger threat. They can be the China to Cardassia's Japan. Honestly I think at this point if there is another war coming soon it will have to be extensional threat so some ancient group coming back or from another dimension or the Typhoon Pact.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

Why will the Bajorans be a threat? And why would they want to be?

 

[Sjaddix]

Why will the Bajorans be a threat? And why would they want to be?

I am just making fun of the cards, unless sisko comes back and the prophets decide to advance their tech, the bajorans are not a problem. But if they got some power, I could see them giving the Cardies payback and the Fed are such bleeding hearts they would protect the Cardies.

 

[Jonny]

I can see the Bajorans doing some payback on the Cardassians while they were down actually so it wouldn't surprise me particularly since they basically said at the end of DS9 that it was going to take years if not decades for the Cardassians to become a major force again.

I do agree with Sjaddix though that the Federation would step in to protect the Cardassians lol the irony ah well besides it'll probably never happen lol

 

[T'Girl]

In the episode Parallels, didn't Bajorian ships attack the Enterprise Dee?

The Bajorian, especially if they didn't join the Federation, could grow and expand, perhaps to the size they were historically or more.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The Cardies will be back, but they'd do it in some clever, underhanded, Garak-ian way, using the resources of others to push forward their agenda. Their currently disadvantaged position will allow their underlying malicious creativity to emerge.

 

[indolover]

I can see the Bajorans doing some payback on the Cardassians while they were down actually so it wouldn't surprise me particularly since they basically said at the end of DS9 that it was going to take years if not decades for the Cardassians to become a major force again.

I do agree with Sjaddix though that the Federation would step in to protect the Cardassians lol the irony ah well besides it'll probably never happen lol

Their Emissary is human, a Federation citizen and a Starfleet Captain. If anything, this probably the main reason why the Bajorans warm to the Federation. Or maybe why the Prophets chose Si