Nooo... it's still late morning... sorta... actual stuff to be done today... kinda.Prequel bashing never gets old! Go for it!
Jar Jar on trial for war crimes.
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Nooo... it's still late morning... sorta... actual stuff to be done today... kinda.Prequel bashing never gets old! Go for it!
That thing known a having 'a life' is of secondary importance to the crucial work of ongoing PT bashing!
Weakling!
There are some hints from bits of the older drafts of the script that they were going to go with a slightly more serious Jar-Jar. He also would have had a blaster during the final battle, instead of the slapstick and blue plasma we got.
I wonder what Lucas's plans were for him in AOTC and ROTS had there not been a backlash.
I wonder what Lucas's plans were for him in AOTC and ROTS had there not been a backlash.
Lucas probably never had much of a plan. Most of this shit just seemed slapped together on the fly, storywise. I did enjoy looking at Natalie Portman in that scene, though. Unfortunately, that scene is so lemon suckingly awful it's impossible to watch with sound on. Actually, that's kind of true of the whole movie.
^ That scene in particular actually made me uncomfortable it was so bad! Nat was hot in that outfit but ugh was that a bad scene. As for Jar Jar being tried for war crimes. Nah...he was manipulated as was Padme and if you are gonna put Jar Jar on trial for asking for the vote to give Palpatine emergency powers then you need to put Padme too up there if she survived since Jar Jar was acting in her absence as Represenative of Naboo. Not to mention we could go all the way back to Episode I to Padme's non confidence vote in the first place which got the ball rolling for Palps.
In his motion to the Senate, Jar Jar committed no crime while engaging in armed conflict, since
1) neither was he himself wielding any weapons
2) nor was he in the chain of command
a) either issuing orders to commit crimes
b) or refusing to issue orders to halt or prevent crimes that
i) he knew
ii) or had reason to believe
were occurring.
So, I don't see how you can charge him with any "war crime".
A better case can be made for him committing a crime against peace, but I think he has a good defense.
Besides, the whole Senate cheered when Republic was reorganized into the First Galactic Empire. A post-Imperial government that would punish Jar Jar for what he did, while letting off the rest of the Senate for what they did, would hardly be noble or benevolent, and I'd say Luke would still have some more work to do.
Sorry, Jar Jar was only the sucker that Palpatine needed to further his evil plan.
1) neither was he himself wielding any weapons
2) nor was he in the chain of command
a) either issuing orders to commit crimes
b) or refusing to issue orders to halt or prevent crimes that
i) he knew
ii) or had reason to believe
were occurring.
So, I don't see how you can charge him with any "war crime".
A better case can be made for him committing a crime against peace, but I think he has a good defense.
Besides, the whole Senate cheered when Republic was reorganized into the First Galactic Empire. A post-Imperial government that would punish Jar Jar for what he did, while letting off the rest of the Senate for what they did, would hardly be noble or benevolent, and I'd say Luke would still have some more work to do.
Sorry, Jar Jar was only the sucker that Palpatine needed to further his evil plan.
If she only had a chest, that would be an amazing picture.
She was at her sexiest in the arena scene.
I don't much care for Star Wars overall, but the things that made the PT better than the OT were Padme, Qui Gon, that guy who channeled Alec Guinness and the better special effects in Episode One.
I don't much care for Star Wars overall, but the things that made the PT better than the OT were Padme, Qui Gon, that guy who channeled Alec Guinness and the better special effects in Episode One.
Uh-oh ...
It's such an insane opinion, it's not worth a response.
Heh heh, let's go for it. For me, I liked Padme, Mace, the improved SFX, and the onerous and inhuman Jedi rules (which make for good dramatic fodder, could make sense if developed, and provide a feeling of exoticism for the Star Wars cosmos). A story built around the tragic fall of a good, heroic Jedi is a great idea. I just wish they'd gotten within 12 parsecs of actually doing that story.
I didn't care for the character of Qui Gon, but I like Liam Neeson. I just didn't understand Qui Gon's role in the story, I guess. Maybe they should have ditched the character and cast him as Bail Organa.
I don't think Ewan McGregor was convincing as Obi-Wan, but that might have been the writing. TCW Obi-Wan seems right on target.
Temis keeps posting new and exciting ways to make me consider watching TCW.
Give in to the Dark Side, I command it!
Just catch up with the DVDs. The first season is mainly fighting, but they do action well. More political and character development starts creeping in, in S2. They continue that in S3 (the political stuff can be tedious at times, but I think there's a master plan) and then they finally get around to delving into the "mystical" story of the Force, what being the Chosen One means, etc. The stuff that should be the core of the story.
Give in to the Dark Side, I command it!
Just catch up with the DVDs. The first season is mainly fighting, but they do action well. More political and character development starts creeping in, in S2. They continue that in S3 (the political stuff can be tedious at times, but I think there's a master plan) and then they finally get around to delving into the "mystical" story of the Force, what being the Chosen One means, etc. The stuff that should be the core of the story.
It sounds very tempting. For a long time my reservation was due to not wanting to get into anything targeted at a younger demographic for fear it would come off as way too childish, but recently I've been taking a few trips down Nostalgia Lane with a friend of mine, watching a couple of the more serialized animated series we grew up with for the heck of it, and they've held up pretty nicely despite my being 23 years old and all that.
So I'm going to grab the DVDs after I'm done with Babylon 5 and in a few months I should be available for chatting it up in the TCW threads.
