Typhon Pact

[Janos]

^ Janos, it seems like you're still a bit confused about all the interlocking 24th century books, so here's the whole list. There are a few other books referenced, but this should cover all of the crucial references, and this is the order they should be read in:

So, I played with your broader list as I have all the DS9 relaunch titles (am in the middle of Mission Gamma 3 right now), the 4 Titans, and the first 4 Voyager relaunch books (I have read the first 2 already).

Here`s what I have now:

1. A Time For War/A Time For Peace
2. Articles Of The Federation (in the mail)
3. TNG: Q&A
4. TNG: Before Dishonor
5. TNG: Greater Than The Sum (purchased today)
6. Destiny: Gods Of Night
7. Destiny: Mere Mortals
8. Destiny: Lost Souls
9. TNG: Losing The Peace (puchased today)
10. A Singular Destiny
11. Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game (puchased today)
12. Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire (puchased today)

So, That`s the order I should read the books I have? And I have about 8 DS9 books to read too....

BTW, does the Department Of Temporal Investigations (out May) take place in the post-Destiny TNGnovelverse? I plan to read it right when its out. Will that spoil any of the other books?

 

[Dancing Doctor]

That looks like the correct order.

Here's the Memory Beta chronology, just in case

 

[Christopher]

So, That`s the order I should read the books I have?

Well, Rough Beasts takes place before Zero Sum Game, but otherwise it seems about right. And thanks for buying Greater Than the Sum!

BTW, does the Department Of Temporal Investigations (out May) take place in the post-Destiny TNGnovelverse? I plan to read it right when its out. Will that spoil any of the other books?

Its main body occupies most of the year post-Destiny, roughly simultaneous with RBoE. It's mostly a standalone story (I didn't actually know the specifics of Typhon Pact when I wrote it, and in fact I just recently caught a continuity error between the two but fortunately was able to fix it fairly easily). It does refer to the outcome of Destiny and to the establishment of the Pact, but I think you have a pretty good sense of those things already.

 

[Janos]

So, That`s the order I should read the books I have?

Well, Rough Beasts takes place before Zero Sum Game, but otherwise it seems about right. And thanks for buying Greater Than the Sum!

No problem. I`m also taking your advice on just reading what I like regardless of continuity. So, I will read DTI as soon as it comes out b/c the DTI just seems like a cool concept.

BTW, does the Department Of Temporal Investigations (out May) take place in the post-Destiny TNGnovelverse? I plan to read it right when its out. Will that spoil any of the other books?

Its main body occupies most of the year post-Destiny, roughly simultaneous with RBoE. It's mostly a standalone story (I didn't actually know the specifics of Typhon Pact when I wrote it, and in fact I just recently caught a continuity error between the two but fortunately was able to fix it fairly easily). It does refer to the outcome of Destiny and to the establishment of the Pact, but I think you have a pretty good sense of those things already.

I do sense what the broad strokes of Destiny are, but hopefully there will be some mystery left about the Destiny trilogy details after I read DTI.

 

[Thrawn]

^ Janos, it seems like you're still a bit confused about all the interlocking 24th century books, so here's the whole list. There are a few other books referenced, but this should cover all of the crucial references, and this is the order they should be read in:

So, I played with your broader list as I have all the DS9 relaunch titles (am in the middle of Mission Gamma 3 right now), the 4 Titans, and the first 4 Voyager relaunch books (I have read the first 2 already).

Here`s what I have now:

1. A Time For War/A Time For Peace
2. Articles Of The Federation (in the mail)
3. TNG: Q&A
4. TNG: Before Dishonor
5. TNG: Greater Than The Sum (purchased today)
6. Destiny: Gods Of Night
7. Destiny: Mere Mortals
8. Destiny: Lost Souls
9. TNG: Losing The Peace (puchased today)
10. A Singular Destiny
11. Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game (puchased today)
12. Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire (puchased today)

So, That`s the order I should read the books I have? And I have about 8 DS9 books to read too....

BTW, does the Department Of Temporal Investigations (out May) take place in the post-Destiny TNGnovelverse? I plan to read it right when its out. Will that spoil any of the other books?

You might want to just round out the rest of the TNG collection, and get Death In Winter and Resistance. Both take place between Nemesis and Q&A, and introduce new characters/plotlines etc that Q&A and Before Dishonor follow up on. Well, actually, on second thought, if that kind of perfectionist approach to continuity doesn't matter to you, maybe not, since neither one is really a highlight. So...yeah.

Anyway, otherwise that looks awesome. You're going to really enjoy these

 

[JD]

^ Janos, it seems like you're still a bit confused about all the interlocking 24th century books, so here's the whole list. There are a few other books referenced, but this should cover all of the crucial references, and this is the order they should be read in:

So, I played with your broader list as I have all the DS9 relaunch titles (am in the middle of Mission Gamma 3 right now), the 4 Titans, and the first 4 Voyager relaunch books (I have read the first 2 already).

Here`s what I have now:

1. A Time For War/A Time For Peace
2. Articles Of The Federation (in the mail)
3. TNG: Q&A
4. TNG: Before Dishonor
5. TNG: Greater Than The Sum (purchased today)
6. Destiny: Gods Of Night
7. Destiny: Mere Mortals
8. Destiny: Lost Souls
9. TNG: Losing The Peace (puchased today)
10. A Singular Destiny
11. Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game (puchased today)
12. Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire (puchased today)

So, That`s the order I should read the books I have? And I have about 8 DS9 books to read too....

BTW, does the Department Of Temporal Investigations (out May) take place in the post-Destiny TNGnovelverse? I plan to read it right when its out. Will that spoil any of the other books?

Are you at all interested in Indistinguishable From Magic? It also takes place in the post-Destiny era.
I just thought of a question related to IFM. Have any of the post-Destiny books established what Nog and Guinan are up to?

 

[Janos]

You might want to just round out the rest of the TNG collection, and get Death In Winter and Resistance. Both take place between Nemesis and Q&A, and introduce new characters/plotlines etc that Q&A and Before Dishonor follow up on. Well, actually, on second thought, if that kind of perfectionist approach to continuity doesn't matter to you, maybe not, since neither one is really a highlight. So...yeah.

Anyway, otherwise that looks awesome. You're going to really enjoy these

I'm only a completist as it relates to NF and DS9 (and MU most times). My approach to other books has been to determine whether to pick up or not by whether its critical to continuity/status quo (e.g. Destiny), but more importantly the back cover blurb is interesting (e.g. Destiny (luckily) , and whether its an author I like (e.g. PAD, KRAD, etc.). I do have a few David Mack books in my pile so if I like Destiny & his MU, then he might get added to my authors list. I also have Christopher's Greater than the Sum and the first Titan book he did (3rd one in the series I think) plus will be getting DTI... so Christopher will likely get added to my author's list on the strength of DTI I think (fingers crossed since Christopher just seems like a cool/accessible guy to boot).

Also, the way I justify yesterday's in-store purchases and last week's online purchase is that I had wanted to get Articles of the Federations, but missed it when it came out. I would have gotten the 2 DS9 related TP books anyway after researching TP. So I only picked up 2 "extra" books in Greater than the Sum and Losing the Peace. My wallet can live with these rationalizations.

Are you at all interested in Indistinguishable From Magic? It also takes place in the post-Destiny era.

I just thought of a question related to IFM. Have any of the post-Destiny books established what Nog and Guinan are up to?

That does seem interesting, but I am loathe to add any more books to my pile.... It says TNG at on th ecover, but is the book solely a USS Challenger book? And, without telling me how that came about, can folks confirm whose ship that is? Seems like Geordi or Scotty are captain?

 

[Dancing Doctor]

I wonder:

Which Typhon Pact member would be the most likely/first to get into a conflict, and how would the other members respond?

I would bet it's the Kinshaya.

 

[Christopher]

Which Typhon Pact member would be the most likely/first to get into a conflict, and how would the other members respond?

I would bet it's the Kinshaya.

That's exactly what already happened in A Singular Destiny. The Kinshaya started a war with the Klingons, and the Typhon Pact's first official public action was to put pressure on the Kinshaya to stop the war and apologize for their aggression.

Like I just said in the RBoE thread, what's interesting about the Pact is that they're happy to compete with the Federation but are focused on doing it in subtler and cleverer ways than just shooting stuff. Through espionage and political maneuvering and competition for resources and propaganda campaigns. And so far, at least half the time, it's working. So why fall back on such a stupid, wasteful, brute-force method as war when their smarter approach to competition is proving so effective?

 

[JD]

Have the Kinshaya played any kind of role in any of the TP books, other than ZSG. I just finished ZSG and I don't think the there was a single reference to them in it.

Are you at all interested in Indistinguishable From Magic? It also takes place in the post-Destiny era.

I just thought of a question related to IFM. Have any of the post-Destiny books established what Nog and Guinan are up to?

That does seem interesting, but I am loathe to add any more books to my pile.... It says TNG at on th ecover, but is the book solely a USS Challenger book? And, without telling me how that came about, can folks confirm whose ship that is? Seems like Geordi or Scotty are captain?

The book doesn't come out until next month, so we don't really know anything more than what's on MB.

 

[Christopher]

Have the Kinshaya played any kind of role in any of the TP books, other than ZSG. I just finished ZSG and I don't think the there was a single reference to them in it.

They've been alluded to in the four Typhon Pact novels, but haven't appeared. But they did play a sizeable role in the TP "prologue" novel, A Singular Destiny. So one could say they've already been covered.

 

[JD]

Is there a specific reason that they didn't get their own TP novel? Is it because they're tied into the Klingons more than the Federation? I'm gonna continue to hope that we get a KRAD written Klingon TP novel that focuses on them, but I understand that there is pretty much zero chance of that happening.

 

[Christopher]

Is there a specific reason that they didn't get their own TP novel?

Well, I guess it's because the Kinshaya are a "lit-only" species that barely even existed before ASD aside from a few allusions in a few Klingon-related books. A whole book focusing on the Gorn or the Romulans or the Breen or the Tholians is marketable, because those are species the television audience is familiar with. But the Kinshaya are a lot more obscure.

That's probably also why the Tzenkethi had to share a novel with the Romulans -- because, while they were mentioned onscreen, they had a much lower profile than the others. As for why the Kinshaya didn't get the same, a supporting role in one of the other books, I guess you'd have to ask their authors or Margaret Clark. But it seems to me there wasn't much of a place for them. RBoE was already pretty full up with its Romulan, Tzenkethi, and Sisko storylines. StF was way off in deep space, and it'd be hard to justify both the Gorn and the Kinshaya being out there. ZSG's Breen were plotting to keep slipstream secrets away from the other Pact members, so a "joint appearance" wouldn't have worked. And PoD is really more about the Andorians, with the Tholians and the Pact playing a background role; plus the Pact's scheme in that book is too subtle for the Kinshaya to fit in well. So maybe it just wasn't in the cards for the Kinshaya to play a major role this time around. But they had their shot in ASD, and maybe they will again.