I'm pretty sure that the above part of your post was uncalled for.
I think that some people are forgetting the subject of this thread. It's a rant. It's not supposed to be rational. Lighten up a little.
My Justin Bieber Rant
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I think that some people are forgetting the subject of this thread. It's a rant. It's not supposed to be rational. Lighten up a little.
Okay. This is fair enough.
Now I get what you are saying. And perhaps I should have phrased it better. Or differently. Or something.
To be honest, I did not think this thread was one of great controversy, and so therefore did not think it required the hard work of being very specific about what I meant. In truth, I just threw out my little flip remark without a ton of contemplation around it....but I seriously did not think anyone would give even the slightest damn about what I thought of Glee, or why.
In light of your remarks, I will amend my own to state that "I do not watch Glee because a) on the surface (commercials I saw, internet promos, etc) it did not look interesting to me; and b) because no one in my day-to-day real life whose opinion I trust sought to change that initial impression by recommending it to me as something they thought I would like. Quite the opposite, in fact - my sister very clearly communicated the following remark: "Trust me - It's not your kind of show".
Although the 'high school' thing did come up again, now that I think more carefully about my sister's remarks. I think I recall her saying something like "Shoot, PK...you hated high school when you went yourself - why would you want to watch a show about it?"
And truer words were never spoken.
Better?
I watch Glee occasionally, in a "well nothing else is on and I need to clean up my DVR queue" way. The song-and-dance numbers I'm not big on unless the "featured artist/theme" is an interesting one but the "dyanmic" of the show is just interesting. Besides, Jane Lynch is just awesome.
To be honest, I did not think this thread was one of great controversy, and so therefore did not think it required the hard work of being very specific about what I meant. In truth, I just threw out my little flip remark without a ton of contemplation around it....but I seriously did not think anyone would give even the slightest damn about what I thought of Glee, or why.
Haven't you noticed by now that I care about everything?
In light of your remarks, I will amend my own to state that "I do not watch Glee because a) on the surface (commercials I saw, internet promos, etc) it did not look interesting to me; and b) because no one in my day-to-day real life whose opinion I trust sought to change that initial impression by recommending it to me as something they thought I would like. Quite the opposite, in fact - my sister very clearly communicated the following remark: "Trust me - It's not your kind of show".
I totally get that. I was intrigued by the first episode but my interest hasn't been consistent for reasons not worth going into here. I stopped watching it before Christmas and hadn't intended to start up again, but the DVR was still recording it so I caught another ep and remembered why I liked the show in the first place. It's definitely not for everyone though.
Although the 'high school' thing did come up again, now that I think more carefully about my sister's remarks. I think I recall her saying something like "Shoot, PK...you hated high school when you went yourself - why would you want to watch a show about it?"
Honestly I hated high school. I didn't like a lot of the attitudes around me, I hated the work, and it wasn't a fun time in my life. But for some reason that doesn't really affect my viewing of the show. Probably because it's not actually like high school.
Sorry to get on your case. I think it was your post in combination with the one before you that set me off. I think I just feel that when it comes to entertainment, people should be comfortable liking whatever they want.
I'm sorry Trekker, but I'm not buying it. You've made similar rants against other people in full seriousness so many times before it's impossible to count. You made repeated long posts in this thread supporting your "point," what little of it there was, and when people questioned you on it, you responded seriously to them. Then the moment someone calls you on it it's now all an elaborate series of hyperbolic jokes?
I'm pretty sure that the above part of your post was uncalled for.
I think that some people are forgetting the subject of this thread. It's a rant. It's not supposed to be rational. Lighten up a little.
So any time someone declares that they're making a rant all bets are off and they're free to say whatever they want without being called on it?
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I don't think "rants" per se are allowed on this board. "Discussions" are, but if the intention is only one way words to wall post, get a blog.
Yep. Once those magazines stop selling and the little girls move on they'll drop Bieber. Thats the way it works. ( and always has)Bieber might move on to better things though. After all, at one time it was the Beatles on the covers of those magazines, getting all the press and staring down from the walls of little girls bedrooms.
At least one, he plugged it on the Daily Show a couple days ago. (which also was pretty funny).
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
No, what I said was
You = not lightening up.I think that some people are forgetting the subject of this thread. It's a rant. It's not supposed to be rational. Lighten up a little.
Nowhere did I say that people couldn't discuss the op's rant. I was just trying to get people in a better mood.
BTW, calling someone on something shouldn't include insulting them.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
No, what I said was
You = not lightening up.I think that some people are forgetting the subject of this thread. It's a rant. It's not supposed to be rational. Lighten up a little.
Nowhere did I say that people couldn't discuss the op's rant. I was just trying to get people in a better mood.
BTW, calling someone on something shouldn't include insulting them.
Just because Trekker's excuse after being called on his behavior is that he was joking and being deliberately hyperbolic doesn't make it so. Like I said, he's done this countless times before.
I don't have to "lighten up" about an angry, jealous, irrational, and bizarre rant, and yes, you were essentially excusing it for no other reason than it was a rant.
By the way, I said the behavior was pathetic and petty, not him, which is perfectly within the rules.
Anyway, if you want to dispute the content on what I posted before, go ahead. If you just want to keep telling me to lighten up because you think he was just trying to be humorous (which I don't think he was), I don't see the point in continuing this.
A couple things mainly because I actually got my second taste of Justin Bieber last night and someone in this thread labeled me in the Glee stareotype that is so predictable and old now that I felt the need to respond somehow.
1) I'm oblivious to Justin Bieber. I don't hate him, I don't love him but I know there are many people who did love him. Hell, back in 1999 (I think I was 15 at the time) I liked N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys (I still have the Millennium CD but don't listen to it) and it's a craze that people go through. To call him a punk seems so out of line and goes in line with the music holier than thou attitude that I see online a lot. It's actually one of the reasons I don't like talking about music online. He's probably a nice guy, but I don't know nor really care. To those that enjoy him and his music, more power to you. Hopefully you like Variety and not just listen to Beiber all the time, but I'm not going to judge one way or another.
2) I got a flavor of some of these fans last night when I was on twitter and followed Glee, and I will say he does have a rabid fanbase. I think the thing I have against Bieber is the phenomenon he's become in comparison to other musicians. Like I said, I'm not here to judge, but's unreal how much he's gotten into the mindset of people and how much people adore him for almost doing nothing. I can't even blame the MTV generation anymore because there is no MTV generation anymore. It's moved on to the youtube generation.
3) Now for the main point of why I wanted to respond in this thread, and that's Glee. Someone up thread brought out the oldest cliche in the book about "I'm a guy" and "I'm not gay". Well, I'm a guy, last time I checked I'm not gay, and I like glee. Watched the Justin Bieber episode last night and enjoyed the non-Bieber bits, and I even have a thread going on in this forum to talk about the current season, which has been getting activity from other Glee fans. So you know people in real life who have the same mindset when it comes to Glee, well, on the Internet that real life get's a lot bigger, like "real world" bigger and the sample size becomes a whole lot larger.
So yeah, It's a Justin Bieber world and we're all living in it. I for one can't wait for the next fad, but until then, I'm moving on.
1) I'm oblivious to Justin Bieber. I don't hate him, I don't love him but I know there are many people who did love him. Hell, back in 1999 (I think I was 15 at the time) I liked N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys (I still have the Millennium CD but don't listen to it) and it's a craze that people go through. To call him a punk seems so out of line and goes in line with the music holier than thou attitude that I see online a lot. It's actually one of the reasons I don't like talking about music online. He's probably a nice guy, but I don't know nor really care. To those that enjoy him and his music, more power to you. Hopefully you like Variety and not just listen to Beiber all the time, but I'm not going to judge one way or another.
2) I got a flavor of some of these fans last night when I was on twitter and followed Glee, and I will say he does have a rabid fanbase. I think the thing I have against Bieber is the phenomenon he's become in comparison to other musicians. Like I said, I'm not here to judge, but's unreal how much he's gotten into the mindset of people and how much people adore him for almost doing nothing. I can't even blame the MTV generation anymore because there is no MTV generation anymore. It's moved on to the youtube generation.
3) Now for the main point of why I wanted to respond in this thread, and that's Glee. Someone up thread brought out the oldest cliche in the book about "I'm a guy" and "I'm not gay". Well, I'm a guy, last time I checked I'm not gay, and I like glee. Watched the Justin Bieber episode last night and enjoyed the non-Bieber bits, and I even have a thread going on in this forum to talk about the current season, which has been getting activity from other Glee fans. So you know people in real life who have the same mindset when it comes to Glee, well, on the Internet that real life get's a lot bigger, like "real world" bigger and the sample size becomes a whole lot larger.
So yeah, It's a Justin Bieber world and we're all living in it. I for one can't wait for the next fad, but until then, I'm moving on.
I would only listen to a tiny percentage of the music they perform on Glee for the sake of listening to the music alone. I probably only have the original versions of the Queen songs they have performed, but I still enjoy the show quite a bit.
I would agree though that they started with a slightly more subversive element to the show that they have now abandoned, there's something infectious about the enthusiasm the whole thing is done with though...
I would agree though that they started with a slightly more subversive element to the show that they have now abandoned, there's something infectious about the enthusiasm the whole thing is done with though...
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I have watched the show, in the past, for one reason: Jane Lynch.
I don't mind watching Glee. Yet to see the latest episode.
But found this on twitter, which made me laugh:-
Justin Bieber #wussierbands
But found this on twitter, which made me laugh:-
Justin Bieber #wussierbands
That's generally why I watch it, I like its relentlessly upbeat approach, it's a nice counterpoint to all the dark stuff I watch. Any message it tries to impart has the subtlety of a jackhammer, but that just gives it another level of comedy, to me. Plus occasionally I even quite enjoy the music.
I don't get the appeal of Justin Bieber, but equally I don't 'hate' him or even pay that much attention to him. It was a long time before I even connected him with the songs he sings, because having heard them on the radio, I assumed it was a girl singing.
Yeah, we know.
You can hide behind sarcasm as much as you like, but there was far too much venom and conviction in your posts for it to be "humourous".
Who does Trekker think he is, Glenn Beck?
This is the internet! Everything people say is serious business and to be taken seriously and as real things!
Sheesh.
I post a couple rants about the perplexity and oddness of popularity of some shitty pop star, my thoughts on how human minds think in regards to their preferred gender, and suddenly an entire personality and set of thoughts and behaviors are posed on me.
FWIW, I've never heard more than a couple of sampling of Bieber's music and barely give the kid any thought whatsoever.
Now, excuse me, I'm going to go write a letter to The Nostalgia Critic and the Angry Video Game Nerd because I think their rants on decades old forms of entertainment are a bit too strong and they may have some anger issues they need to have resolved.
Sheesh.
I post a couple rants about the perplexity and oddness of popularity of some shitty pop star, my thoughts on how human minds think in regards to their preferred gender, and suddenly an entire personality and set of thoughts and behaviors are posed on me.
FWIW, I've never heard more than a couple of sampling of Bieber's music and barely give the kid any thought whatsoever.
Now, excuse me, I'm going to go write a letter to The Nostalgia Critic and the Angry Video Game Nerd because I think their rants on decades old forms of entertainment are a bit too strong and they may have some anger issues they need to have resolved.
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