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Holographic addiction

Itisnotlogical

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Not addiction to the holodeck like Barclay had. I'm thinking, if a person took an addictive drug that was generated on the Holodeck, would the addiction or the effects still be there when they left the holodeck? Or would they become addicted at all?
 
Anything ingested on the holodeck is actually replicated. So, I would assume that any drug would also be replicated. That said, I would also assume that they'd have some sort of safety in place that wouldn't replicate anything dangerous for consumption and would either provide a substitute or a harmless version.

If you have a holodeck, the need to take recreational drugs is a bit diminished anyway.
 
Yes, wouldn’t taking a mind-altering drug while you’re on the holodeck be overkill?
 
What if the idea came along the lines of of Picard and the Sub machine gun scene where he turned off the Holodeck safeties. You could do the same thing with the drugs. Suppose a character gets stabbed with a needle full of heroine. The only place he is going to get more is via the holodeck.

Of course, it's stupid. No one WANTS to be hooked on drugs. And anyone found late for duty would probably be sent to the doctor. So this reply and topic is all moot. :)
 
No one WANTS to be hooked on drugs.
Oh I don't know about that. I've met a number of people in my life who are not only addicted, they absolutely love being that way, always trying to talk their friend in to, not just taking whatever, but "totally getting hooked in," there's a whole social thing to it.
 
No one WANTS to be hooked on drugs.
Oh I don't know about that. I've met a number of people in my life who are not only addicted, they absolutely love being that way, always trying to talk their friend in to, not just taking whatever, but "totally getting hooked in," there's a whole social thing to it.

That's the way many smokers talk. "I'm not going to give up because I enjoy it too much". They confuse addiction with pleasure, whether deliberately or subconsciously, to justify not giving up.
 
Not addiction to the holodeck like Barclay had. I'm thinking, if a person took an addictive drug that was generated on the Holodeck, would the addiction or the effects still be there when they left the holodeck? Or would they become addicted at all?

Like everything else on the holodeck, it would depend if the safeties were on or not.
 
The holodeck would be the perfect place to consume narcotics, it's safety features would make sure you didn't have any accidents and my dream if being able to fly through the millennium simulation after a heroic dose if spacecake would be fullfilled. Pink floyd playing in the background of course :-)
 
No one WANTS to be hooked on drugs.
Oh I don't know about that. I've met a number of people in my life who are not only addicted, they absolutely love being that way, always trying to talk their friend in to, not just taking whatever, but "totally getting hooked in," there's a whole social thing to it.

That's the way many smokers talk. "I'm not going to give up because I enjoy it too much". They confuse addiction with pleasure, whether deliberately or subconsciously, to justify not giving up.

That's a little simplistic. Some people do love the lifestyle. There are people who while may be physically addicted, they may still love doing it. When I smoked, it had nothing to do with addiction making me believe I loved it. I loved it because it was great. I quit because it was got in the way of my biking. And it stank. So I quit- easy enough and no big deal.
 
^ Yeah, I agree with that - I knew smoking was bad for me and I knew it was addictive (I knew that every time I tried to quit) but it was immensely pleasurable and that had very little to do with the addiction itself (though that was certainly a part of it). I haven't had a cigarette in over a year and a half now, but I still do occasionally look back on it with some fondness not because I'm addicted but because there were some genuinely pleasant aspects to the act of smoking.
 
The holodecks use replicator technology for much of what they produce. Presumably, anything ingestable. Therefore, I'd think that any drugs created would be real. The effects would be real.
 
If they can replicate syntho-alcohol, where the effects can be made to just disappear (never have been clear as how?), then why not replicate syntho'crack, again where the effects can be made to just disappear.

The effects are fairly brief as it is.
 
Not addiction to the holodeck like Barclay had. I'm thinking, if a person took an addictive drug that was generated on the Holodeck, would the addiction or the effects still be there when they left the holodeck? Or would they become addicted at all?

Artifical chemicals that would vanish the moment he leaves the holodeck? Now that would be some ugly withdrawal symptoms.
 
^ Thats a good point, then again, If ALL the booze disappeared from your system wouldn't that mean all the hangover inducing chemicals would disappear also?

Who knows, maybe crack, meth and smack would be harmless pass-times in a future where holodecks are common place, just program the addictive nature out of your drug of choice.
 
There also psychological additions too, and if you're consuming somethng that replaces your bodies own endophins, your body will stop making endophins, when you stop taking drugs your body doesn't restart producing endophins right away.

Leaving you for a time with nothing, no happiness, that's why people trying to kick opiates have an unusually hard time of it.

:)
 
If they can replicate syntho-alcohol, where the effects can be made to just disappear (never have been clear as how?), then why not replicate syntho'crack, again where the effects can be made to just disappear.

I always sort of assumed it didn't really work at all like alcohol, and would stop acting on a body not much past a gentle buzz. I don't know enough about neurochemistry to say, but maybe a shape that blocks the action of any more on the brain past a certain level. : /

Which is why folks try to get real booze, so they can actually get tanked.
 
Yes, wouldn’t taking a mind-altering drug while you’re on the holodeck be overkill?

No more than dropping acid and going to see 2001.

I miss the 60s.

:rommie:

Not addiction to the holodeck like Barclay had. I'm thinking, if a person took an addictive drug that was generated on the Holodeck, would the addiction or the effects still be there when they left the holodeck? Or would they become addicted at all?

Like everything else on the holodeck, it would depend if the safeties were on or not.

That's kind of the way i was thinking.

The holodecks use replicator technology for much of what they produce. Presumably, anything ingestable. Therefore, I'd think that any drugs created would be real. The effects would be real.


IIRC, when they drink synthehol, they can shake off the effects easily. I remember a next gen ep talking about it, but i can't place which one it was, or how exactly it worked.

Does anyone remember the episode?
 
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